Talk:Alfonsina Orsini/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: MPJ-DK (talk · contribs) 00:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Alright I will be picking up the review, both to help out my fellow Wiki Cup participants and to earn points for the GA cup as well.

GA Toolbox

I like to get this checked out first, I have found issues using this that has led to quick fails so it's important this passes muster.

Copyright violations Tool

• No issues identified as I checked through the sources Y

Disambiguation links

• No indications of problems Y

External links

• No indications of problems Y

Well Written

• The article tends to strike a more familial tone, referring to the subject simply as "Alfonsina" for most of the article.
  • • I started changing this over to 'Orsini' instead, but I'm unsure if this is the right approach, since for most of her life she would have been known to contemporaries as Alfonsina Medici. Can you please either confirm this is the right approach or suggest another?

• I am not sure about that, let me think about it, perhaps look at some featured content to figure it out.

• The first time Piero is mentioned in the article he should have his full name stated and link to his article. Basically tread the lead as if does not exist when it comes to links etc. in the main article.
  • • Done
• "status as rebel" should be "status as rebels"
  • • Done
• "permission, and joined Piero" does not need the comma
  • • Done
• "people there, and worked" does not need the comma
  • • Done

• "When her brother-in-law was elected as Pope Leo X, she took advantage of the situation to increase her income and provide additional funds to her son.", how so? can we get some details for this claim?

• • • One of those details is two sentences later, with his brother-in-law becoming Depositor-General. Further details will take a while, as I'll have to re-request the source from the library.
• "she was noting" should be "she noted"
  • • Done
• " lobbying so that her son-in-law could get" should be "lobbying for her son-in-law to get"
  • • Done
• "The Medicis began to have public disputes about which of them should get the best power and positions" hmmm not sure, a few suggestions

• I think it should be "which family member" instead of "which of them"
• "best power and positions" should be reworded to something along the line of "the best positions and the most power" or words to that effect.

• • • See if you like my adjustment

• Yes I am good with those

• "governing councils, and edited" does not need a comma.
  • • Done
• "secretary for the office" should be "secretary of the office"
  • • Done
• "had responsibility to plan the official visit" should be "had the responsibility of planning the official visit"
  • • Done
• "War of Urbino when it was contested." - it does not need "when it was contested"
  • • Done
• "acting on it." I believe "acting on them" in this case.
  • • Done
• The sentence starting with "Her rule was generally unpopular" basically repeat what was just said, consider rewording it so it does not start out by repeating the previous sentence.
  • • Done
• "trusting him to use them" should be "trusting him to use the money"
  • • Done
• " paintings to family throughout Italy" probably need to be "to her family"?
  • • Done

Sources/verifiable

• Sources appear reliable and correctly formatted citatioons Y

Broad in coverage

• It does get details in from various parts and periods of her life so yes. Y

Netural

• It is not biasedly one-sided and does not try to push a point of view. Y

Stable

• Nothing pops up when looking at the five year history of the article. Y

Illustrated / Images

• Image "Sandro Botticelli 068.jpg" Needs a specific U.S. Public Domain tag on the image page. Y
  • • This is far from my area of expertise, but I see on the image page the following text under licensing: "The work of art depicted in this image and the reproduction thereof are in the public domain worldwide. The reproduction is part of a collection of reproductions compiled by The Yorck Project. The compilation copyright is held by Zenodot Verlagsgesellschaft mbH and licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License." I really have no idea how to correct the issue you note in the box right above this.
• The other image appears to be appropriately tagged.

• Looking at the page I agree the "Yorck" tag below it should cover am okay with that.

General

• The lead is too short, it should summarize the entire article. WP:LEAD suggests 1-2 paragraphs for an article this size, I think that for GAs we'd want to go for the higher number.
  • • I've expanded this, but would appreciate more specific guidance, as this is one of my weaker areas in WP writing.

• Looks good, I will give it another look.

@1bandsaw: - At this point I think I have run through the entire article and found all issues I can see, which are not that many. So I am putting this article on hold for 7 days to allow for updates to be made. Let me know when you are ready for me to look at it again. MPJ-US  05:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

MPJ-DK, I appreciate the detailed review. I've done an initial pass through and included my responses above. There are a couple of areas I noted that I could use further direction if you think it warranted. Please let me know if you have other suggestions or questions. 1bandsaw (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

1bandsaw, it's looking good, I am liking the improvements. I will check on the lead and see if I can get a handle ont he best way to deal with how to address the subject of the article.  MPJ-US  00:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

• Okay I have re-read the artice and I am stuck on how else to address her than Alfosina or keep changing her last name, this way is a little more consistent. No other outstanding issues for the GA criteria. I am passing this for GA. @1bandsaw: Contrats.  MPJ-US  01:13, 17 March 2016 (UTC)