Talk:Alfa Romeo 164

Who's the nutter that tries to say that the Arese v6 is the same as the Ferrari Dino v6? Dino v6 was designed by Vittorio Jano and the Alfa V6 by Giuseppe Busso. Edited it straight now tho. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevize se (talk • contribs)

Photo's

The main picture should be replaced by a better one. The current picture has been taken at night with a flash in an amateurish (sorry to use this word, but I only use it because it is possible to make good pictures at night) way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.81.28.30 (talk) 07:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Localization

No Alfa Romeo cars were ever marketed in Indonesia, at least not the 164/8. Corrected.

This section is written like an advertisement

This section is written like a press release. Although the car initially received (generally) positive reviews from most of the North American automotive press, the car quickly turned out to be a disaster. The car's many reliability problems quickly surfaced, resale values tanked, new car sales dropped sharply and Alfa Romeo again dropped out of the US market. This article makes it sound like the 164 was some sort of legend cementing Alfa's place among the world's automotive greats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.73.57 (talk) 15:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Not Testarossa influenced

Despite popular belief, 164 was not styled after the Testarossa! Said so the 164 designer, Enrico Fumia.YBSOne (talk) 10:34, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Styling

I have removed styling section as its just a copy of a design section. It featured many untrua and not needed informations YBSOne (talk) 20:23, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Quadrifoglio Verde not Quattro Valvole

Please do Your research more carefully before editing wikipedia. YBSOne (talk) 20:24, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Twin Spark Engine

The block of the twin spark engine is not part of Alfa's history since the Thirties. The engine the twin spark was derived from was introduced with the Giulia in the mid-Sixties. Please be more careful before making such bold statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.178.155.254 (talk) 15:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Proteo chronology

1988 Enrico fumia finishes GTV/Spider design
1991 Walted de Silva finishes Proteo design
1993 Spider 916 production starts
1994 GTV 916 production starts
Fall 1994 premiere of both 916 models at Paris Motor Show
http://www.bozhdynsky.com/alfa-romeo-gtv-spider-history/timeline/

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Weasel words

I have removed weasel words from the Development section. They were unsourced and were written in an advert like manner, like in a company sales literature. U¹ _quattro TALK 07:55, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Content issues

User:Mr.choppers please explain the following:

• Since when ambiguous terms such as "turbo" considered reader-friendly?
• How did you determine that a car which is clearly based on the car's platform should not be mentioned in the infobox? Have you obtained consensus on this with others?

223.29.234.202 (talk) 12:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

The "Related" field typically refers to other production cars. This keeps the infobox concise. Same thing with not spelling out "turbocharger"; it's just needless clutter. No one thinks it has a turbofan I4; not sure what exactly you think is being improved. If you look at the infobox guidelines, they suggest using "T" for turbo, which is significantly less clear.  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Where is it defined that the related field is meant for production cars? As far as I see, there are a lot of car articles mentioning concept cars in that field. Also, from where you ascertain that anyone coming to this page is an automobile expert to know the full abbreviation of "T" or "turbo"? 223.29.234.202 (talk) 06:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

More people know 'turbo' as it was literally a car badge than the word 'turbocharged'. Infobox is meant to be compacted from main text. Also common name abreviation can and should be user like 'turbo-diesel' and not 'turbocharged-diesel'. YBSOne (talk) 08:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

turbo-diesel was used before in infobox. Yet even that was reduced to just "turbo". 223.29.234.202 (talk) 10:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

probably to not duplicate the word 'diesel'. YBSOne (talk) 10:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Yep, as per standard practice elsewhere. Personally, I prefer "TD".  Mr.choppers | ✎  04:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Good

Not good

IP, please stop swapping for photos of modified cars and cars on non-standard wheels. I include this particularly egregious example to show what I mean. We are illustrating an encyclopedia, we are not trying to upload the coolest pictures of cars with giant alloys. Pictures should be of representative types - this means standard models should be the most prominent. Unusual top-end models absolutely merit inclusion, but they do not necessarily get top billing and maximum exposure.  Mr.choppers | ✎  04:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

The Quadrifoglio never came with a rear wing, yet the red car has one. Its possibly the Q4. I have replaced the image with a standard Quadrifoglio. 223.29.234.202 (talk) 07:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)