Talk:Alf and Alfhild

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I am curious as to the source of this information. The only legendary Alf and Alfhild I know of were father and daughter.--Berig 12:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Bkonrad, rather than continuing to revert mindlessly, could you say why this name differs from Miriam, just as an example? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For one thing, the page is at Miriam not at Miriam (biblical figure) or some other disambiguated title, so unless there is some other that could contend for being the primary topic -- the question of which Miriam is the primary topic has already been decided.

Yes exactly, that's my point. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the case of Alf no case has been made for Alf and Alfhild as the primary topic. Simply because something is the oldest known example does not mean it is the most well-known, which is the main criteria for primary topic status. older ≠ wiser 22:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If it's the oldest known example of a name, and there is no other contender, it's a good candidate for the redirect. We shouldn't have terms redirect to dab pages if we can possibly help it; always better to make one of them the primary article. That's what the dab tag recommends. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While that is one factor to consider, simply being the oldest is not the sole consideration when determining primary topic.older ≠ wiser 23:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alf is an ambiguous term and I don't see that any of the Alf listed on what is currently at Alf (disambiguation) qualify and significantly more notable than any of the others. older ≠ wiser 22:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not ambiguous. It's a name. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO, it is the Alf of Yngvi and Alf that is both the oldest and most notable of all listed uses. He appears in four sources (Ynglingatal, Ynglinga saga, Historia Norwegiae and Islendingabok, and probably in Gesta Danorum as Alver), whereas this Alf only appears in one.--Berig 22:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To Slim Virgin, if it is not ambiguous, then what is the purpose of Alf (disambiguation)? If you want to try to make a case that this is the primary topic, that's fine by me. Let's invite a more general discussion. older ≠ wiser 23:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comment regarding ALF, Alf, primary topic, and appropriate disambiguation standards

I've solicited opinions on some issues raised here. Hopefully we can keep the focus on substantive issues and avoid petty vindictiveness. Your comments are welcome at Talk:ALF#Request for Comment regarding ALF, Alf, primary topic, and appropriate disambiguation standards. older ≠ wiser 02:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]