Talk:Album covers of Blue Note Records

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 00:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that some of the album covers of Blue Note Records feature illustrations by a then-unknown Andy Warhol?

• Source: Cook, Richard (2003). Blue Note Records: The Biography. Boston: Justin, Charles & Co. p. 129. "The artist in question, Andy Warhol, had already done a couple of Blue Note sleeves - Johnny Griffin's shirt-bedecked The Congregation..."
  Adams, Owen (10 August 2009). "Label of love: Blue Note". The Guardian. "Reid Miles's striking cover designs (a pre-famous Andy Warhol also designed a few)..."

• ALT1: ... that despite not being a fan of jazz, designer Reid Miles created hundreds of album covers for Blue Note Records, a jazz record label?

• Source: Cook, Richard (2003). Blue Note Records: The Biography. Boston: Justin, Charles & Co. p. 88. "Miles wasn't particularly interested in jazz, and professed to being much more of a classical music fan."
  L.A. Times writer (12 February 1993). "Reid Miles; Designed Album Covers, TV Ads". Los Angeles Times. "Miles established his New York reputation by creating about 400 album covers for Blue Note."
  Hinckley, David (15 December 2005). "Oozing cool: that Blue Note look". New York Daily News. p. 43. "...once Miles was hired, he did everything 500-plus LPs over the next 11 years."

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• Comment: Including two disagreeing sources for ALT1 because there seems to be no consensus on how many covers Miles designed, other that they are in the multiple hundreds. I am personally more drawn to ALT1 than I am the original hook, given that the original cannot be supplemented by free-use images. Feel free to alter the hooks as well.

Created by Joeyquism (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Joeyquism (talk) 05:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

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• Interesting: - ?

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Hi Joey! came here after finding this article from discord. Sources look good, with reliable sources and authors with good creds. Spotchecked a few of them (refer to Special:PermanentLink/1229691544), [3] [13], [33], [69] and found no issues with plagiarism or verifiability (although I would tone down with the quotations if you want to bring it to GA). No need for a QPQ. Wrt hookiness, I don't really vibe with both hooks - the second is wordy, and the first depends on whether people know Andy Warhol. Perhaps you can spin a hook from the third paragraph of the lead? PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 01:25, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi PSA - thank you for the review! I agree with your point that ALT0 requires prior knowledge, though I'm not sure that I agree ALT1 is wordy other than the usage of the word "jazz" twice. As a replacement, how about the following:

• ALT1a: ... that despite not being a jazz fan, designer Reid Miles created hundreds of album covers for Blue Note Records?

Perhaps that's more concise? I also took your suggestion of spinning a hook from the third paragraph:

• ALT2: ... that the album covers of Blue Note Records have been considered to be the "look" of jazz?
  • Source: "What does modern jazz look like? For a lot of music fans, the visual identity of jazz has become synonymous with a single record label... That record label is Blue Note, and their album covers are so iconic, they've been the point of inspiration for graphic designers and musicians for the past 60 years."

...or some other variation? Let me know what you think. For your point regarding quotations, I am assuming you mean the quotations in the reception section, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I'll get to reducing the quotation usage as soon as I can. Thanks again! joeyquism (talk) 02:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

• @PSA: Does the above address your concerns, as is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 15:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

• @Z1720: Is it possible to get further movement on this without PSA? Pinging them again just in case, though if they don't respond here, I'll notify them on the Discord server. joeyquism (talk) 22:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

• @Joeyquism:, so sorry. Real life got in the way (on-the-job training kept me busy). I like ALT2 by sevenfold, and I see you did your best with reducing the quotations, so I feel confident in approving this. PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 00:23, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Non-free overuse

With 17 non-free album covers as of the time of writing, the article seems to violate the "minimal usage" criterion of the Wikipedia:Non-free content guidelines, which states that A single item of non-free content that conveys multiple points of significant understanding within a topic is preferred to multiple non-free items which each convey fewer such points. I think the article is written well enough that viewers can get the gist with one or two images per section, including the lede. (Pinging User:Joeyquism) DigitalIceAge (talk) 01:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice. I’ll get to editing this when I get home tonight. joeyquism (talk) 01:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I've reduced the number to 7 images. Let me know if this is enough to warrant the removal of the minimal use violation template. joeyquism (talk) 05:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Much better, thank you! DigitalIceAge (talk) 06:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)