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Merger proposal

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– Merged.

There are two articles on the Forestry Trunk Road, and to keep with the naming conventions, Alberta Highway 734 should be the article addressing the topic. 117Avenue (talk) 00:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support; FTR is part of hwy 734. The redirect should be kept though. --Qyd (talk) 14:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Y Merger complete. – {{User|117Avenue)), 22:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

North section no longer numbered 734

Provincial highway status for Highway 734 from Hwy 40 near Grande Cache to Hwy 43 near DeBolt was removed from this portion of Forestry Trunk Road in either 2000 or 2001. The 2000 Alberta Official Road Map is the last map to show it numbered as 734. A review of the 2009 Primary Highways 500-986 Progress Chart confirms that it is no longer a provincial highway. I've already edited the List of Alberta Highways page to reflect this. Shall I edit this article or would somoeone else like to take the reigns? Hwy43 (talk) 09:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out, I haven't yet got the chance to fully study the AT map, I have been using the ASRD map. I suspect there are more inconsistencies that we will find. Also, when signing your posts, you do not need to worry about wikilinking it and figuring out the time, with Wikipedia's magic words all you need to do is add four tildes or press the signature button. 117Avenue (talk) 00:26, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I recall only trying to figure out the time the first couple posts after setting up an account. I've since been using the four tildes or the signature button, but it hasn't been working for me. Perhaps a bug in how I originally set up my preferences. Just changed my user name and will revisit my preferences. Hopefully it will work from here on out. 04:08, 12 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwy43 (talk • contribs)

Southernmost portion of FTR not yet numbered 734

A review of the 2009 Primary Highway 500-986 Series Progress Chart shows that the last portion of the south segment of Forestry Trunk Road is not yet numbered 734 from 8 km south of the Red Deer River to the intersection of Hwys 40 & 579). ~~I've already edited the List of Alberta Highways article to reflect this.~~ Shall I edit this article or would somoeone else like to take the reigns? Hwy43 (talk) 10:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just looked closer at the Progress Chart and learned that the last portion is of the south segment of FTR is symbolized as a "Proposed" highway, so status quo should suffice until it is upgraded to highway standards and numbered as either 734 or 40. I'll re-revise the List of Alberta Highways article. Hwy43 (talk) 10:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, let's just call that section Highway 734 for now, unless there is a source that calls it Highway 940. 117Avenue (talk) 00:26, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article fix

I'm about to fix this article in stages to reflect the current configurations of Highway 734 and Forestry Trunk Road. This will involve temporarily hiding current content until all stages of the fix are complete. I'll try to complete all stages today. Hwy43 (talk) 20:48, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have a bit more to do under the "Route description" section, including a summary of the balance of the former segments of Forestry Trunk Road from north of the Pembina River to Highway 43. Revisions to the road junction list under the "Major intersections" section are also forthcoming. Hwy43 (talk) 05:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Split Highway 734 & Forestry Trunk Road

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion inconclusive so it will remain the same. MuzikMachine (talk) 15:43, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As per a spin-off discussion of a Alberta Highway 40 / Alberta Highway 734 Merge discussion, there was a proposal to split Hwy 734 and FTR.

I see Forestry Trunk Road redirects to Alberta Highway 734. At this point all that remains of FTR is the brief segment northwest of Cochrane and the segment between Crowsnest Pass and Kananaskis Country. The segment that is now Highway 734 is no longer officially named or signed as FTR. I wonder if the FTR name is even more common than Highway 734 now. Given this and the fact that the historical FTR is much longer than Highway 734, I honestly think there is an argument to support a split into two articles. By the way, I was working on a map of the historical FTR. I will post below alongside the maps for 734 and 40 once done. Hwy43 (talk) 04:21, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As Hwy 734 runs concurrent with FTR in its entirety, I would vote to keep the topics together but rename the article as "Forestry Trunk Road". MuzikMachine (talk) 23:24, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think the renaming aspect of this discussion is premature. Right now there are three options: split, keep as is named, and keep and rename. Ideally I would like to see a discussion about whether to split or keep, and then if the latter prevails embark on a WP:RM where there is an onus to provide evidence in accordance with the RM process to support the proposed move/renaming. Hwy43 (talk) 03:36, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is a tough one, as it appears that 734 will some day be part of Highway 40, while the FTR is the historical routing. I would move Alberta Highway 734 to Forestry Trunk Road and cover it as part of the historical route, but with the historical name not being common, that doesn't make sense. It would be nice if the Highway 40 designation were at some determinate point in the near-future. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 14:58, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- I would agree that the Highway 40 designation is probably a long-term plan, but based on Hwy 940 being either renumbered to Hwy 734 or being dropped in the 1990s, it's not happening soon. MuzikMachine (talk) 22:55, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.