Talk:Albert DeSalvo
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[edit]Are you sure of the date of birth? As an astrologer trying to understand his chart, I was given a totally different birth date, with time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.201.170 (talk) 19:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Merge with 'Boston Strangler'
[edit]I don't know how to suggest it any better than this but the article on the Boston Strangler is mostly the same information. I think it should be merged. Gregory j 00:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Agree - The two subjects are inextricably linked and DNA analysis has now proved his connection. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 05:43, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
- Disagree – The two subjects are linked but not necessarily the same. See my comments below in "Merger Proposal of Boston Strangler" section. — Molly-in-md (talk) 11:08, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- Strongly Disagree – I agree with the comments made by Molly-in-md above. Also, see my comments in "Merger Proposal of Boston Strangler" section (above). Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:52, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Albert DeSalvo - jewish
[edit]Since my sourced edits of this article are vandalized without explanation, I will add to this talk page that Albert DeSalvo had a jewish mother. This claim is sourced in Century of Crime Volume 4 DVD http://www.dvdcity.dk/?51O49XO4934XO493532353734362 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.239.245 (talk) 02:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- A link in an edit summary to a sales site isn't a sourced addition. It was an improperly uncapitalized addition with no inline citation and only a spam link given in an edit summary. Removing it was proper, and calling that removal vandalism is inappropriate. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- The DVD in question is a documentary, so looks like a valid source to me. That said;
- * sources should go into the article not into the edit summary.
- * You should make it clear that you are sourcing the documentary, not the dvdcity.dk.
- Use: <ref>{{cite video | title=Århundredes Forbrydelse #4 - Lunatics | publisher=Foreign Media Group | url=http://www.dvdcity.dk/?51O49XO4934XO493532353734362}}</ref>
- * Consider the placement of the fact. Because the lead is very short when you place the statement that Albert was Jewish into it you create an undue link between his ethnicity and the crime.
- * You should try to find an English distributor if the video.
- Finally, be careful about the words you bandy about. On wikipedia vandalism is edits made with the intention of compromising the integrity of the project. By our policy of WP:AGF you should first consider that there might be other reasons for the reversion in question. Taemyr (talk) 20:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- My intention for the inclusion of his ethnicity is for factual accuarcy, nothing else. As far as I know, this IS an encyclopedia.88.112.239.245 (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- How is his ethnicity relevant to the article? Dbrodbeck (talk) 23:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well this is his biography entry. It is not our article on the Boston Strangler. Taemyr (talk) 00:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- How is his ethnicity relevant to the article? Dbrodbeck (talk) 23:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- My intention for the inclusion of his ethnicity is for factual accuarcy, nothing else. As far as I know, this IS an encyclopedia.88.112.239.245 (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
DeSalvo in Fiction
[edit]Not entirely sure of wiki guidelines so I figured I'd ask here: Imitation in Death - Nora Roberts: The serial killer in this novel copycats as various serial killers, including the Boston Strangler. Is this relevant? Thanks Fabulous Feminist (talk) 20:58, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
DeSalvo at Bridgewater
[edit]This source says he was at ""
- Feldscher, Karen. "The Warden." Northeastern University Alumni Magazine.
WhisperToMe (talk) 07:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Slavery citation
[edit]Citation needed for the slavery thing which may be vandalism. Slavery ended before 1931. How do kids escape from the farmer in Maine and get back to Boston? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.249.0.3 (talk) 02:36, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
edit request
[edit]Some followers of the case said Nassar was the real strangler and fed DeSalvo details of the murders so DeSalvo could confess and gain notoriety or through Nassar get the reward money to help support DeSalvo's wife and two children. I think that this sentence is awkward, too long and may be a run on sentence. A suggested rewrite of this sentence: Some followers of the case said Nassar was the real strangler and that Nassar fed DeSalvo details of the murders. DeSalvo could then confess and gain notoriety or, through Nassar, DeSalvo could get the reward money which could help support DeSalvo's wife and two children. 76.24.239.68 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:33, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
DeSalvo arrested in USN uniform?
[edit]On BBC TV news broadcast today relating with the discovery or new analysis of DNA material related to the Boston Strangler's last murder there were some black & white still photos shown. The photos showed DeSalvo in a US Navy blouse. It was unmistakabley a blue blouse with the typical back shoulder flap with three white stripes. In another photo, he was shown in a "Pea Coat", which is a USN issue uniform item. Was the USN uniform a disguise or was he a serving USN member? Since I saw it on TV, I obviously have no references, but it would improve the article to indicate what DeSalvo was doing for a living at the time.--TGC55 (talk) 00:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- That's very interesting. I had never heard before that DeSalvo served in the USN. If I remember correctly, he was a "fix it man", a handyman. But, I could be mistaken on that point. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:56, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Merger Proposal of Boston Strangler
[edit]With the recent DNA evidence, does this support the merger of the Boston Strangler page into this one? It seems pretty conclusive that DeSalvo was the Boston Strangler and most serial killer articles are under the actual person's name, not their nickname. --dashiellx (talk) 09:59, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- I do not support the merging of the DeSalvo article with the Boston Stranger article.
- Reason 1: while there is evidence supporting DeSalvo's guilt in at least one of the murders, there is also much controversy about whether all the murders were perpetrated by the same person. Irrevocably linking DeSalvo with all the crimes would be premature.
- Reason 2: the DeSalvo article should be more about the man and less about the Strangler; he did a lot of other stuff in his life. The DeSalvo article needs cutting down to reduce overlap with the Strangler article; an example is the Doubts section, which should reference the Strangler article, not be duplicated in the DeSalvo article.
- — Molly-in-md (talk) 11:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- I agree whole-heartedly with Molly-in-md above. It is certainly not definitive that DeSalvo was the Boston Strangler. It is certainly a controversial and contentious matter, far from being "generally accepted". It would make no sense to merge the Boston Strangler into the DeSalvo article. If anything, it would make more sense to merge DeSalvo into the Boston Strangler article. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:49, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- At first I liked Joseph A. Spadaro's idea of merging DeSalvo into the Boston Strangler article, because DeSalvo isn't notable for anything else. But the details about his early life etc. are interesting because he was a murderer and we like to look for explanations. So if another suspect turns up, are we going to include all that information about him or her in the Boston Strangler article as well? It would get awfully long. So my suggestion is to keep the current setup, but remove the infobox from the Boston Strangler article. The infobox makes the article appear to be a biography of DeSalvo rather than an article about a series of crimes. The DeSalvo article could be shortened and have a "link to main article" about the stranglings. Kind of like articles about band members that link back to the main article about the band. --Rosekelleher (talk) 10:03, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- I agree whole-heartedly with Molly-in-md above. It is certainly not definitive that DeSalvo was the Boston Strangler. It is certainly a controversial and contentious matter, far from being "generally accepted". It would make no sense to merge the Boston Strangler into the DeSalvo article. If anything, it would make more sense to merge DeSalvo into the Boston Strangler article. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:49, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Biography vs. Case History
[edit]These two articles are so intertwined it's hard to know where to put what. Seems to me the DeSalvo article should be less about the case (with some of that info transferred to the Boston Strangler article) and more about his early life and so on. --Rosekelleher (talk) 21:40, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Midnight Rambler
[edit]Why deleting it? AlterBerg (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- @AlterBerg: I thought it was just an opinion and there was no source given. I just went to the article for the song and it mentions it in the first paragraph. My bad. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
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Merger proposal
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- To not merge on the grounds that the concept of the Boston Strangler is independently notable, even if it is now confidently linked to Albert DeSalvo. Klbrain (talk) 22:09, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Oppose. This has been discussed several times on the talk pages of the both articles. Since it's not known DeSalvo did all the murders I think the merge is premature. 2001:14BA:984A:F200:0:0:0:8EA (talk) 20:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose There is significant dispute as to whether DeSalvo was the Boston Strangler, despite his DNA match for one victim. Rising5554 (talk) 10:09, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose The DNA match from the Mary Sullivan murder makes it way more likely that DeSalvo committed all the murders he confessed to based on all their similarities. Still, I think the articles should be separate. Serial killers lie in their confessions all the time, either inflating or deflating their victim counts or can be copycat murderers taking credit for earlier murders as their own. The DNA evidence definitively links DeSalvo to the Mary Sullivan and Sophie Clark murders but some people question the accuracy of details in his confessions of some of the other murders. Libertybison (talk) 17:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)