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One organisation, two organisations, one movement?

I find the wording in the article somewhat confusing. It currently says that Aiyy iteghele is an organisation registered in 2015, but that it also previously was named Kut-Siur and was founded in 1990 and registered in 1993. Are they different organisations, the same organisation that needed to re-register for some reason, or the same organisation that just changed its name? Looking at the sources, I used machine translation to read the relevant parts of Popov 2016, but it didn't help much. It first says Aiyy iteghele is an association known as(?) Kut-Siur, then brings up some related organisations including a school, and then mentions that the movement became expressed through the organisation Aiyy iteghele in 2015. I can't figure out if this means that Kut-Siur had folded and was replaced by a new organisation, if they are the same one with a name change, or if both perhaps continue to exist in parallel. DayakSibiriak, can you help out here? Ffranc (talk) 14:00, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How I understood, has been registered a new organisation, according to new Putin's era rules. DayakSibiriak (talk) 04:10, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So are they one organisation or two? I stumbled on this when I was doing some categorisation, so what I'm asking is if the article should be in a category for organisations established in 1990 or 2015. Do you know of any source where this is made clear? Popov 2016 didn't help, Balzer 2005 obviously only talks about Kut-Siur, and Tomski 2014 only seems to talk about beliefs, not organisations. I can't access Vorontsova & Filatov 2006, but it's also from before the Aiyy iteghele era. I did some searching but couldn't find anything else. Ffranc (talk) 11:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As informal movement it founded in 1990, as new organisation body in 2015 (the 1993 org. already defuncted). DayakSibiriak (talk) 21:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]