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This article is intended to be much more thorough than could be accomodated on the main Aikido article. When this article looks decent, it can be linked to from the main article. Heroeswithmetaphors (talk) 16:35, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Either "initiate" is the wrong word, or the whole phrase is wrong.

"The basic pattern is for the receiver of the technique (uke) to initiate an attack against the person who applies the technique—the 取り tori, or shite 仕手, (depending on aikido style) also referred to as (投げ nage (when applying a throwing technique), who neutralises this attack with an aikido technique.[1]"

It is Nage/Tori/Shite who is 'initiating' the attack, which is performed by Uke. The first action is done by Tori before the attack of the Uke, and that opening or even threatening is the 'initiating.'

Only absolute beginners (less than 4 weeks practicing) work in the described way.

"Boat-rowing exercise (船漕運動 Funakogi undō) / Rowing the boat (取り船 torifune) [2] teaches movement from the hip rather than relying on muscle strength of the arms."

This is wrong, too. Both have nothing to do with Aikido, and have absolutely no "training effect" on Aikido techniques. They are Shinto rituals, that *some* Aikido teachers do as warming up exercise. I met probably close to 100 Aikido teachers, most of them prominent, and not even a handful performs Torifune to start the class. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiyukan (talk • contribs) 09:20, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]