Talk:Ahmadilis

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Removal of sourced information

Mehmeett21, you have removed sourced information in this article. Explain why. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 20:32, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you may have misread what the Iranica source states. The opening paragraph is about the owner of Aq Sunqur;

"They are often referred to as the Aḥmadīlī Dynasty because of a connection with Aḥmadīl b. Ebrāhīm b. Vahsūḏān Rawwādī Kordī who is first mentioned by Ebn al-Aṯīr under the year 501/1107-08 and was named as ruler of Marāḡa in 505/1111-12."

Please notice that Amadil ruled Maraga in 1111-1112, while the Ahmadilis dynasty "atabegs of Maraga"", start date is 1122(which is supported by Bosworth's New Islamic Dynasties, page 198).

The second paragraph in the Iranica source states,

"Āq Sonqor Aḥmadīlī (ca. 516/1122-1123 to 528/1133-1134): Āq Sonqor is the first person who can be called an atābak (atabeg) of Marāḡa and the clear founder of the line."

Now according to Cambridge History of Iran, Vol. 5, page 179,

"The Ahmadilis of Maragheh took their name from the Rawwadid Ahmadil b. Ibrahim of Tabriz, who was murdered in 1116. In accordance with the prevalent practice, his Turkish slave Aq-Sonqur took the surname of his master's family." --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well this is awkward.. thank you Kansas Bear. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 23:47, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't feel bad, it took me some time to work this all out. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:58, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]