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Ubayd Allah

Was Ubayd Allah the son of Ahmad al-Muhajir? There are some people who think he was not his son because it is not found in the books of the muktabar nasab of the 4th-9th century Hijriyah (Islamic calendar) Badak Jawa (talk) 04:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If Ubayd Allah was indeed the son of Ahmad al-Muhajir can you provide a reference to support this? Badak Jawa (talk) 04:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As for the absence of the name Abdullah in earlier scriptures, this is because they did not intend to mention it comprehensively in their writings. Additionally, Abdullah was brought by his father to the land of Hadramaut during the migration, which was then far from populated areas, so his name might not have reached them. We can observe that in earlier scriptures, they do not mention the exact number of Ahmad bin Isa’s sons. Consider the following examples:”

===== Al-Ubaidili (435 H): =====

When mentioning the descendants of Ahmad bin Isa, Al-Ubaidili only referred to one individual from the fourth generation, stating, "Among his descendants is…"1. The phrase “among his descendants” indicates that he did not intend to mention all of them.

===== Al-Umari (5th Century): =====

Al-Umari, when referring to the descendants of Ahmad Al-Muhajir, also mentioned only one of his descendants, who was separated by four generations2.

===== Qadhi Marwazi Al-Azwarqani (6th Century): =====

Qadhi Marwazi Al-Azwarqani, while discussing the descendants of Ahmad Al-Muhajir, simply stated, “He has many descendants,” and then mentioned one of them from the fourth generation3.

===== Muayyidudiin (8th Century): =====

Muayyidudiin, when mentioning the descendants of Ahmad bin Isa, referred to one of his descendants separated by four generations4.

===== Ibnu Inabah (9th Century): =====

Similarly, Ibnu Inabah mentioned only one descendant separated by four generations without specifying the names of Ahmad Al-Muhajir’s children.

===== Abdullah bin Muhammad Sirajudin Ar-Rifai (9th Century): =====

In the 9th century, historian Abdullah bin Muhammad Sirajudin Ar-Rifai, when discussing the descendants of Imam Ahmad bin Isa, simply stated, “He has several descendants, including Abul Qasim Al-Abah An-Nafath (fifth generation),” implying that he had descendants in Baghdad and Yemen without mentioning specific names.

I hope this clarifies the historical context! 😊

Buhadram (talk) 01:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]