Talk:Aggañña Sutta

hi. added some translation here.Tasfan 04:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs serious improvement. It is written poorly, and contains no verifications. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.153.201.138 (talk) 13:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Per WP:PRESERVE the following material is being saved here. The premise upon which this material is based is based upon a source, ref'ed in the first sentence, which is self-published at Scribd and thus unreliable. The conclusion is based upon a source also self published by the same author and which is being ~~spammed~~ introduced into Wikipedia by Mbrahmana, an editor with a username strikingly similar to that of the self-publishing author. Wikipedia is being used for essaying or soapboxing. — TransporterMan (TALK) 17:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Author, Metteyya Brahmana, strongly disagrees with Gombrich's analysis and conclusion that the Buddha was engaged in satire and humor in the Agganna Sutta as this would make the Buddha a liar and fabricator, violating the "right speech" foundational teachings in the Abhaya Sutta.^[1] In Itivuttaka 22, Group of Ones, from the Pali canon, the Buddha actually claims in a previous incarnation that he was the Maha Brahma God seven times during seven expansion and contraction cycles of the universe, which completely undermines Gombrich's claim that the Buddha was mocking the Brahmanical deity as he would actually be mocking himself.^[2] The more coherent view that would be consistent with the Kosala Sutta and the rest of the Pali canon is that through the Buddha's own direct knowledge and experience as the Maha Brahma God as gleaned through recollection of his past lives, he found the power, authority, and greater bliss of life as a God not permanently satisfying and therefore chose spiritual liberation from samsara in his final birth as a human being rather than return to God-status in a heavenly realm. ^[3] To suggest that the Buddha simply made up the story in the Agganna Sutta seems calculated to cause one to doubt the veracity of the Buddha's teachings (i.e., if the Buddha is making up a story here, might he also be making up a story in this or that sutta?), and skeptical doubt is the second fetter described by the Buddha that keeps one bound to samsara. Brahmana presents a convincing case in his book entitled, Why God Became a Buddha, that fairly recent modern science is just now catching up to key elements the Buddha described 2,600 years ago in the Agganna Sutta concerning the cyclical nature of the universe and the evolution of beings and plant life on Earth. ^[4]

References

^ Brahmana, Metteyya. Book Review: What the Buddha Thought, by Richard Gombrich [1]
^ Itivuttaka 22, Group of Ones, PTS Iti. 1-19
^ Kosala Sutta, AN 10.29, PTS A v 59
^ Brahmana, Metteyya (2013). Why God Became a Buddha. Anagami Publishing. ISBN 978-0-9887083-1-0.

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[1] Brahmana, Metteyya. Book Review: What the Buddha Thought, by Richard Gombrich [1]

[2] Itivuttaka 22, Group of Ones, PTS Iti. 1-19

[3] Kosala Sutta, AN 10.29, PTS A v 59

[4] Brahmana, Metteyya (2013). Why God Became a Buddha. Anagami Publishing. ISBN 978-0-9887083-1-0.

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