Talk:Agapemonites
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Merger proposal
[edit]Both this article and Agapemone seem to be about the same organisation or "sect". I came to add some material and a reference, but I am unsure where to add it as the longer page only says that it contains material from Encyclopedia Britanica and has no other references and the shorter article has two references but not a lot of content. I am unsure which article is the correct name and where I should add new material?— Rod talk 20:38, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
- In such cases of uncertainty I like to preserve the larger. Flipping a coin would do as well. To my unacquainted mind, the short other article seems a competent summary. Incorporating it, with its refs, into the short lead of this one, omitting repetitions, would approximately double the length of the lead. I intend to do this next week, if dissent or alternative proposals are not offered. Jim.henderson (talk) 00:40, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- As there were no objections I have now merged the text and redirected the other article to this one.— Rod talk 17:36, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- Good going. It slipped my mind. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:38, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 23:15, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Nominator: — Rod talk
Hi! My review for this article will be here shortly. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 23:15, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
1: Well-written
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2: Verifiable with no original research
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As per the above checklist, there are no issues with the article and it’s a GA (A very minor issue – "The church was abandoned before it was bought in 1956 by the Ancient Catholic Church and now is used by the Georgian Orthodox Church." [no inline citation]). The prose quality in particular has been fantastic in all your articles. Thanks, Rod, very much for your diligence in writing such great articles.
Promoting the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 23:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
"Evidence" for Nottidge pregnancy
[edit]I've just removed the comment "(evidence ???)" from the article. It is generally better to discuss on the talk page although "citation needed" tags can be added in the article. I've looked in the Evans citation Evans, Roger (2004). Somerset Tales of Mystery and Murder. Countryside Books. ISBN 1853068632, and will continue looking at sources - if no suitable citation can be found the claim can be removed.— Rod talk 17:56, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- I looked at the wrong source. In Evans, Roger (2006). Blame it on the vicar. Halsgrove. ISBN 9781841145686. on page 26 it says "Agnes was not to be a member for much longer, Prince discovered that she had betrayed him, by contacting her sister and, it appeared, she was expecting a child and not by her spiritual husband." This seems to support the claim made in the article that "Agnes, the eldest of the Nottidge sisters, objected to the spiritual marriage which entailed a celibate life and became pregnant by another member of the community.[11] Agnes wrote to her younger sister Louisa warning her not to come to Spaxton." The test on wikipedia is Verifiability meaning that claims need to be supported by a relaible source and this seems to be the case here.— Rod talk 18:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
origin of name
[edit]Does anyone have a source for the etymology? as far as I can tell it might mean "state (or condition) of apage (love) but abode? If not, perhaps we should stay "they named A, a word intended by them to mean" etc--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 22:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Evans, Roger (2006). Blame it on the vicar. Halsgrove. p. 24. ISBN 9781841145686. uses "The abode of love" and in Evans, Roger (2004). Somerset Tales of Mystery and Murder. Countryside Books. p. 29. ISBN 978-1853068638. says "Soon the Agapemone (Greek for Abode of Love) was being developed." Norris, Sally (1989). Tales of Old Somerset. MRM Associates. p. 119. ISBN 978-1853060649. suggests the name Agapemonites might have come from flowers or fossils but rejects this just saying "followers of two self-proclaimed Messiahs".— Rod talk 08:11, 11 May 2019 (UTC)