Talk:Afshars of Urmia

Khanate?

The avaliable sources do not call this entity for a 'khanate'. The Qizilbash Afterwards: The Afshars in Urmiya from the Seventeenth to the Nineteenth Century, which is undoubtly the most prominent work regarding these rulers, does not make a single mention of a 'khanate', and simply refers them as 'governors' (mentioned 75(!) times in the source). The source even includes Ottoman officers and the Afghan warlord Azad Khan Afghan amongst the governors of Urmia (page 550). Since both this source and Karim Khan Zand: A History of Iran, 1747-1779 refer them as "Afshars of Urmiya (Urmia)", I'm moving this article to that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Swietochowski, Tadeusz (2004). Russian Azerbaijan, 1905-1920: The Shaping of a National Identity in a Muslim Community. Cambridge University Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-521-52245-8. Most of the principalities were organized as khanates, small replicas of the Persian monarchy, including Karabagh, Sheki, Ganja, Baku, Derbent, Kuba, Nakhchivan, Talysh, and Erivan in northern Azerbaijan and Tabriz, Urmi, Ardabil, Khoi, Maku, Maragin, and Karadagh in its southern part.
Wright, John; Schofield, Richard; Goldenberg, Suzanne (2003). Transcaucasian Boundaries. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-135-36849-4. On this basis there developed in the 1740s the Azerbaijani feudal state structures known as the khanates of Sheki, Karabakh, Kubin, Urmi, and Nakhichevan.— Golden ^{call me maybe?} 15:10, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but those are passing vague mentions of Urmia. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:36, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I couldn't find any sources that provide more information about Urmia's status at the time. — Golden ^{call me maybe?} 15:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For those who are interested, neither Afshār (Islamica) nor AFŠĀR (Iranica) make use of the word "khanate" when referring to the Afshars of Urmia. In fact, they also simply refer them as "governors". --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:41, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]