Talk:Afro–Trinidadians and Tobagonians/Archive 1

Archive 1

Anon's edits

• Like other ethnic groups in Trinidad, Afro-Trinidadians can be subdivided into many religious groups. - This is just extra verbiage - it doesn't contribute anything.

• English Catholic vs. Anglican - The name of the church is the Anglican Church of Trinidad and Tobago

• Order - Catholics are the largest group, so it makes sense to put them first

• Listing denominations - it doesn't make sense to enumerate every Christian group in TT - and if you did, PAWI should be ahead of groups like the Salvation Army

• and so on - Not really appropriate language for an encyclopaedia

• Spiritual Baptists outnumber Afro-Trinidadian Muslims; Rastas and Orisha probably do (lack of good data, since census data does not correlate religion and race); there are Hindu and Sai Baba Afro-Trinis, no reason to delete that info

• Language - this is not specific to Afro-Trinis, it's true for Trinis as a whole (and covered elsewhere)

• Validity of race - if you want to address this in a TT-specific context, then you need to reference it.

• Links - don't pipe links to redirects

Guettarda 22:41, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I also removed Foxy Brown and Derek Walcott from the list of prominent Afro-Trinis - Walcott is a "red" St Lucian, so I think inclusion is a little tenuous despite his Trinidad associations. Foxy Brown is not all that prominent a person - we can do a lot better than that in a list of prominent Trinis. Guettarda 22:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

anonymous replies

Anon, the fact that you know who Foxy Brown is shows that she is a prominent person who also is a Afro- Trini. Also granted Derek Walcott was not born in Trinidad what does him being "red" have anything to do with it? Vanessa Williams is "red" and both her parents are Jamaican. That mentality does not belong here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.220.198.124 (talk) 16:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Ishango replies

I will concede to Derek Walcott( What is a red Trinidadian, pray tell?? Can you categorically define it?), but Foxy Brown,... no.If Dymally, a Dougla can be claimed as an Indo Trinidadian and added to that category, then so can Foxy Brown for Afro-Trinidadian category (certain Indians on the list can also so be added, too).

anonymous replies

Ishango, One does not diminish the other if you are dougla that doesn't mean your Indian roots disappear. Trinidad is a country and a Island, a whale is a sea animal and a mammal, why cant a person can be Afro-Trinidadian and Indo Trinidadian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.220.198.124 (talk) 17:40, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Afro-Trinidadian?

I'm from Trinidad and lived there for 37 years and have never heard of such a term. Black people from Trinidad are simple call Trinis. It is rare you say black/afro trini, because trinis are assumed to be black because historically they have been the majority.

If I was talking about about a black Trini I would say hey he a trini. If I was talking about an indian Trini then I say that an Indian. Not all blacks trinis agree their ancestors even come from africa.

It is like you say that a black america if he is black. If he is white you just say he is an american becuase historically the majority of american have been white.

from indentured labourers from West Africa. I keep hearing of these mysterious african labourers. But nothing of their names, culture, religion etc... anybody know anything about these africans and their descendants? Domsta333 12:14, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Page move

Please discuss page moves first. Thanks. Guettarda (talk) 15:00, 17 January 2010 (UTC)