Talk:Afonso Henriques Theatre/GA1
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Nominator: V.B.Speranza (talk · contribs) 22:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Shushugah (talk · contribs) 12:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
I look forward to collaborating with you and reviewing this article. I generally expect all points to be responded to within 7-days and will grant an extension in most cases. I do not always check my watchlist, so ping me {{Ping|Shushugah}} when you need my attention.
Image review
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Done The three images are permissibly and appropriately licensed (Public domain in Portugal/US) and suitably captioned
Sourcing
[edit]Verified the following sources:
Done Theatre burnt down.[1]- Done In its interior the theatre had two closed cabinets, 38 boxes in three levels, 176 audience seats and 60 gallery seats.[2]
- ✗ Fail However I do not understand how the above source verifies anything about its name to Afonso Henriques or the spelling orthographic variations (Afonso versus Affonso) for example. I do not speak Portuguese, but with google translate could not find it.
- V.B.Speranza can you explain how this source verifies this claim?
- Who is the author and publisher of this Scribd article? [3]
Not a formal requirement of GA review, but the following would make article easier for readers and reviewers alike.
- If you use WP:FOREIGNSOURCES please specify the foreign language (e.g first source is missing it) and also provide an English translation for all of the foreign titles.
- Do not duplicate website and publisher if they're the same. Keep the website as Diário da República and do not use the diariodarepublica.pt (currently it's reversed)
- Nice to mark which sources are available as open-access or not, e.g Internet Archive sometimes only includes a preview.
Prose review
[edit] Done Article is well written, neutral and covers all the questions I would be interested in on a historic theatre. I do not have more to add here. Well done!
Nitpicks
[edit]Inconsistent spelling between theater and theater, stick with theatre which is British English.Replace date format in of 09/11/1919 to 9 November 1919- Make a redirect link from Gualterianas to Guimarães § Traditions and festivities with {{R to section}} and {{R with possibilities}} inside the redirect
Link Decree to Decree § PortugalMore specifically target Orthographic reform to Spelling reform § Portuguese- Include other spelling variations in the lead, e.g Afonso vs Affonso and create redirects for them for improved SEO on Google/findability
- Drive-by comment: the lead here is really short, can you add some more of a summary of the article here? -- asilvering (talk) 20:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: Thank you for helping me! Could you please explain the orthographic reform problem a bit deeper? I will correct the other problems in the meantime. V.B.Speranza (talk) 18:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Shushugah: I’ve done everything you asked except the orthographic reform thing that I still have doubts about and the “Make a redirect link from Gualterianas to Guimarães § Traditions and festivities with R to section and R with possibilities inside the redirect” as I don’t know how to do it… I hope to hear from you soon so you can help me fix these issues. V.B.Speranza (talk) 23:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have moved your comments here, in order to keep it sequential. I tagged you in source section to inquire about specific source verification. I see you expanded the lede and made a number of improvements. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: I’ve fixed the problems, I don’t think it’s necessary to touch the Gualterianas missing article, as I will create that article in the next week or so. V.B.Speranza (talk) 15:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- V.B.Speranza you did not respond to some of my comments, for example about sourcing. I want to draw your attention to this potential failed verification. You have the following text: and was baptized with the name of Portugal's first king, Afonso Henriques, making official the name Theatro Dom Affonso Henriques, later modified due to various orthographic reforms. which is not verified by the source.[2] If I misunderstood it, no problem but I asked twice and you didn’t acknowledge the issue. Can you explain where in the text it is mentioned. Additionally, I asked about what the author, title and publisher of Scribd.com link. While Scribd is the web host of the text, I cannot even tell what kind of document it is. Is it a blog piece, a journalistic article, a Master’s thesis etc… Again, while not explicitly necessary, having the English translation of sources, authors, publisher would make it easier to do source verification for non Portuguese speakers. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: I added the language and translated article to all sources… the name question is simple to answer, I used that source to show that it was written a different way back then. The Scribd.com article seems to be a part of another bigger article that I unfortunately can’t find anywhere else… if you need anything else I’ll be glad to help! V.B.Speranza (talk) 21:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: I am waiting for feedback so i can fix any problem still persisting. V.B.Speranza (talk) 19:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: I added the language and translated article to all sources… the name question is simple to answer, I used that source to show that it was written a different way back then. The Scribd.com article seems to be a part of another bigger article that I unfortunately can’t find anywhere else… if you need anything else I’ll be glad to help! V.B.Speranza (talk) 21:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- V.B.Speranza you did not respond to some of my comments, for example about sourcing. I want to draw your attention to this potential failed verification. You have the following text: and was baptized with the name of Portugal's first king, Afonso Henriques, making official the name Theatro Dom Affonso Henriques, later modified due to various orthographic reforms. which is not verified by the source.[2] If I misunderstood it, no problem but I asked twice and you didn’t acknowledge the issue. Can you explain where in the text it is mentioned. Additionally, I asked about what the author, title and publisher of Scribd.com link. While Scribd is the web host of the text, I cannot even tell what kind of document it is. Is it a blog piece, a journalistic article, a Master’s thesis etc… Again, while not explicitly necessary, having the English translation of sources, authors, publisher would make it easier to do source verification for non Portuguese speakers. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: I’ve fixed the problems, I don’t think it’s necessary to touch the Gualterianas missing article, as I will create that article in the next week or so. V.B.Speranza (talk) 15:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have moved your comments here, in order to keep it sequential. I tagged you in source section to inquire about specific source verification. I see you expanded the lede and made a number of improvements. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Shushugah: I’ve done everything you asked except the orthographic reform thing that I still have doubts about and the “Make a redirect link from Gualterianas to Guimarães § Traditions and festivities with R to section and R with possibilities inside the redirect” as I don’t know how to do it… I hope to hear from you soon so you can help me fix these issues. V.B.Speranza (talk) 23:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Drive-by comment The lede is supposed to summarise the body of the article, therefore references are not needed. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 13:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed! Still waiting on @Shushugah: feedback so I can fix any persisting issue if any still exists. V.B.Speranza (talk) 20:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Efeméride de 18-01-1841 · Arquivo da Sociedade Martins Sarmento". csarmento.uminho.pt. Archived from the original on 17 July 2024. Retrieved 17 July 2024.
- ^ a b Sousa Bastos, Antonio (1908). Diccionario do theatro portuguez (in Portuguese). Robarts - University of Toronto. Lisboa Imprensa Libanio da Silva. p. 331.
- ^ "125 Anos Nicolinas | PDF | Faculdade". Scribd. Retrieved 2024-10-05.