Talk:Aeronautics/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Clean up tasks

This looks like a cross between a disambiguation page, a series of dictionary definitions and a stub. --Theo (Talk) 15:22, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Merge the definitions of 'Aeronautics' into a single statement of the subject. --Theo (Talk) 15:22, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Explain the differences between 'aeronautics', 'astronautics' and 'hydronautics' and the relationship to 'fluid dynamics' with appropriate links. --Theo (Talk) 15:22, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If Aerodynamics and Aeronautics are different things (and I think they are), move the external links about Aerodynamics to Aerodynamics. --Theo (Talk) 15:22, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This page needs more information to be usable since aeronautics is a fairly broad category. It probably should be a stub. Phoenixflight 18:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Give more information on early and modern aeronautics. Phoenixflight 18:47, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

This page vs Aviation History

I can't help but wonder how much this page will be similar to the one that already exists on aviation history to the point where I have to wonder just how much useful information will be found independently on this page beyond a definition for aeronautics. Any suggestions? Andromeda321 19:34, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Just what I was thinking - I wrote up to Caley's glider before I noticed the Aviation History article. Right now I'm leaning towards a See Aviation History link myself. Feezo 01:15, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Exactly... if the aviation history page was lacking in information I'd be tempted to write more on this page, but as that one was a former featured article canidate it seems silly. Andromeda321 01:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Images available

There are some high quality images that sould be used on this page as it expands, here are some for easy picking :D

I am going to add that last one as the top picture for now anyway. - cohesion★talk 21:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Space flight

Aeronautics sometimes refers to flight in space. --Banana04131 01:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe. Though that would typically be called "astronautics". AERO implies atmospheric flight. --ABQCat 01:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

caption?

There is no caption on the second image in the article. Could someone with more knowledge than I insert one? Thanks--Acewolf359 (talk) 01:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

qualification to study aeronatic engineer

what is the qualification to study aeronatic engineer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.1.126 (talk) 14:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Abbas Ibn Firnas

I removed the following text:

But long before that, in 852, Abbas Ibn Firnas jumped from the minaret of the Mezquita mosque in Córdoba using a huge wing-like cloak to break his fall, which he survived with minor injuries. This was the first example of an early parachute. Ibn Firnas recognized that aviation was a difficult task and asked himself in a personal ledger:

"What man-made machine will ever achieve the complete perfection of even the goose's wing?"[5]

In 875, at age of 65 years, Ibn Firnas made the earliest attempt at flight using a rudimentary glider and launched from the Mount of the Bride (Jabal al-'arus) in the Rusafa Area, near Córdoba, Spain. However, it ended in a crash and he injured his back. This failure left critics saying he hadn't taken proper account of the way birds land and that he had provided neither a tail, nor a means for landing.[6][5]

Ibn Firnas died twelve years later in 887, at the age of 77 years old.

There were no references included, and some of the information is not pertaining to this article (death, age at death) and incorrect information (first example of an early parachute). Since I can't verify the source, I removed the information, but include it here in the event that adequate sources are provided. --Born2flie (talk) 04:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Aeronautics vs. aviation

You are invited to join in a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation#Aeronautics_vs._aviation — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 11:38, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

There is now a merger discussion at talk:aviation -- 65.94.78.9 (talk) 23:28, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Following an inconclusive vote, there is now a discussion there to move this article to Aeronautical science. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 11:03, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

If you want to move the article, propose it properly. It has to be done here, on this talk page, and use the WP:RM process. -- 76.65.128.112 (talk) 05:18, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 09 January 2014

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The result of the move request was: Not moved EdJohnston (talk) 05:28, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Aeronautics → Aeronautical science – There is no single definition of aeronautics. Some regard it as the science of flight with aviation as the art or practice. Others regard it as equivalent to aviation, yet others embrace astronautics and spaceflight, and so on. The British Royal Aeronautical Society charter takes one of the most general approaches, saying that, "The objects and purposes [of the Society] are the general advancement of aeronautical Art, Science and Engineering and for promoting that species of knowledge which distinguishes the profession of Aeronautics (which expression includes Astronautics)."[1] The current article content focuses on the science aspect. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:36, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Neutral which ever is used (aeronautics, aeronautic science, aeronautics science, aeronautical science, science of aeronautics), this should be the article focused on the science of aeronautics. The practice of aviation should be in aviation. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 05:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Oppose – I don't see a good rationale for such a move. The current title describes the article content well enough. Dicklyon (talk) 01:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Oppose – I'm not convinced, and urge !voters to begin reading here to get the full background and context for this discussion, which is a fork of earlier discussions. Wbm1058 (talk) 20:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Oppose, as adding "Science" makes the title unnecessarily less concise, and less accurate. Aeronautics is not limited to the science of flight. It also involves aspects of actually flying. As defined by Oxford, Merrian-Websters, Macmillan, Cambridge, and American Heritage dictionaries, which also refer to the "art" of flying, the "practice" of "travel through the air" and "aircraft navigation." - WPGA2345 - ☛ 22:08, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

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Chuck Yeager

Although Chuck Yeager failed in the flight 'Bell X-1B, he his still famous today. www.google.com Use google to search about Chuck Yeager. He was once a world famous aeronautic but a bit now.Caleb Chull Hur (talk) 11:35, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Bad move

The field is Aeronautics, Aeronaut is a "traveler in a hot-air balloon, airship, or other flying craft." per Google. So the recent move seems rather dumb. Vsmith (talk) 15:44, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

And I've moved it back. Vsmith (talk) 19:45, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Aviation medicine

I understand that aviation medicine (AM) is a field of medicine. But would it not also fall under the field of aeronautics? I’m not sure what the general consensus is IRL, and I’m about to do some research on the subject, but I feel that it may be worth at least mentioning it here? MWFwiki (talk) 14:07, 2 November 2021 (UTC)