Talk:Adwan, Syria
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1596-records
[edit]There is something rather unusual about the records for this town: firstly the taxes paid are much, much less (about 1/10) of what other villages of the same size would pay, secondly the number of bachelors is very high. I wonder if this was a garrison/military place? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:04, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'll try to research it a bit more. It appears the name comes from the Adwan tribe of Hauran-Transjordan, which makes it difficult to research because the results for "Adwan, Hauran" or the like in the google book search are dominated by information on the tribe not the village. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:37, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, but in the 1596-daftar it was known as 'Udwan, so try searching for that? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:45, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I've been trying with that spelling but still no luck whatsoever. I'm going to return to the Adwan spelling and see if I could find something on the village. I think if it were to be a military place, it must have been a very small one. Is it possible that those bachelors (or at least some of them) represented slaves and not soldiers? --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I would have thought that slaves were counted as part of the household of the owner? Just guessing. And it really would not explain the very low tax-returns. Huldra (talk) 23:13, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Good point, didn't consider the taxes. --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:22, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- ok, looking a bit more on the Hutteroth-tables, it looks as if in general there are a lot more bachelors in the Hauran-region, than in Palestine. (This is not something which is discussed in the book (AFAIK), they deal more with what products are produced where. ) However, it still does not explain the low tax returns. And sorry I found the 1596-data for Al-Shaykh Maskin so late (I am still a bit unfamiliar with the Hauran-region, as I´m sure you can see :) Cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:55, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I guess we'll find out eventually. Nice find with Sheikh Miskin "Samsakin." That was a tricky one, apparently it has a number of different but kinda similar spellings. Anyway, it's certainly not too late, feel free to add the info whenever you have time. --Al Ameer son (talk) 02:01, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- ok, looking a bit more on the Hutteroth-tables, it looks as if in general there are a lot more bachelors in the Hauran-region, than in Palestine. (This is not something which is discussed in the book (AFAIK), they deal more with what products are produced where. ) However, it still does not explain the low tax returns. And sorry I found the 1596-data for Al-Shaykh Maskin so late (I am still a bit unfamiliar with the Hauran-region, as I´m sure you can see :) Cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:55, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Good point, didn't consider the taxes. --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:22, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I would have thought that slaves were counted as part of the household of the owner? Just guessing. And it really would not explain the very low tax-returns. Huldra (talk) 23:13, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I've been trying with that spelling but still no luck whatsoever. I'm going to return to the Adwan spelling and see if I could find something on the village. I think if it were to be a military place, it must have been a very small one. Is it possible that those bachelors (or at least some of them) represented slaves and not soldiers? --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, but in the 1596-daftar it was known as 'Udwan, so try searching for that? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:45, 13 September 2012 (UTC)