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The external link titled "computer programming" in citation [e] of the "Notes" section points to http://www.programmer -club.com.tw/ShowSame TitleN/c/17411.html which used to be a discussion in Chinese about the correct day-of-week for 1 January 1 AD, but the site stopped working in 2019, and now forwards to an aggressive tracking & phishing network after briefly indicating in French that the domain is parked & for sale with the German company "PSI-USA Inc." d.b.a. Domain Robot / InterNetX GmbH, the domain registrar most commonly associated with online fraud and abuse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.240.58.154 (talk) 14:32, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Catholic Church adopts Gregorian calendar from 1 September 2023

Following the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church in Ukraine, the Eparchy of Melbourne of the Saint Apostles Peter and Paul is also conducting a calendar reform. According to the Decree of His Grace, Bishop Mykola Bychok, from September 1, 2023, the Eparchy of Melbourne will completely switch to the Gregorian calendar. see https://catholicukes.org.au/the-eparchy-of-melbourne-is-switching-to-the-gregorian-calendar/ Anthony Staunton (talk) 03:35, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Calendar reform in Cromwellian England?

I have read that in Britain there were proposals to reform the calendar during Oliver Cromwell's time and around 1700. Has anybody got any information about these proposals? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.67.35 (talk) 23:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There was a proposal in 1583/1584 (Elizabeth I) to adopt the Gregorian calendar in England but it was abandoned as a Papist Plot, see Calendar (New Style) Act 1750#Calculation of the date of Easter: the Computus. I for one don't know about any proposals around the time of the Commonwealth, so if you can find the source again, please say where as it would be interesting to read it. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 01:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If anywhere, it would almost certainly be discussed in "Time's Alteration" by Robert Poole (1998); looking at the table of contents available online it seems that chapters 6 and 7 cover each of those periods respectively (I don't have a copy). Arcorann (talk) 06:28, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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With the same Act, the Empire (except Scotland, which had already done so from 1600) changed the start of the civil year from 5 April to 1 January.

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With the same Act, the British Empire changed the start of the civil year from 5 April to 1 January. Scotland had already done so from 1600, prior to the Act of Union in 1707. RenegedeZeus (talk) 21:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why? In 1752, Scotland was part of the Empire. Your version suggests otherwise: if I may exaggerate a little for effect but not by much, it is akin to saying "With the same Act, the British Empire changed the start of the civil year from 5 April to 1 January. France had already done so from 1582". The exact details are in the body but it seems to me that the current text is succinct and avoids bringing in incidental detail like the Acts of Union. But then I wrote it, so I would prefer the current version. Would a neutral bystander care to advise? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 00:40, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In 1752 Scotland was part of the united kingdom. I would cite a definition of the british empire from Wikipedia as "The British Empire comprised the dominions, colonies, protectorates, mandates, and other territories ruled or administered by the United Kingdom and its predecessor states." Your version suggests that in 1752 Scotland was a colony or dominion of the British Empire and not integral part of the United Kingdom. RenegedeZeus (talk) 21:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Kingdom of Great Britain (not UK for another 49 years) was part of the Empire too! If your interpretation is correct, then section I of the Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 reading That in and throughout all his Majesty’s Dominions and Countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, and America, belonging or subject to the Crown of Great Britain, do not apply to England, Scotland, Wales or Berwick and therefore we should still be using the Julian calendar and Christmas Day is not four days away but 17. But at least in Scotland your New Year will start in 24 days time, whereas we in England will have to wait over three months for ours. I think not! --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: I agree that the proposed change introduces ambiguity. If you have an idea for an alternate replacement please feel free to mention it. Tollens (talk) 01:23, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]