Talk:Admiral of the fleet (Soviet Union)

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Gentlemen, Apparently, there is another option - one "big" star which is equal to 4 smaller ones. Ivan Kapitanets bears it. Check out these two photos: - http://www.yaconto.ru/images/stories/trueimg/originals/1/0C59A7477C1D-1.jpg - http://yaconto.com/uploads/fotos/Misc/kapitanets-yakunin.jpg Perhaps we should reflect this? Dust of the world (talk) 12:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There was a uniform shift transitioning from the USSR to the Russian Federation.

The USSR used a Marshal's star to denote a "Fleet Admiral" and an even larger one with a wreath to denote an "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union". FADM Chernavin, last CINC of the Soviet Navy, also wore an actual gold with diamonds Marshal's star around his neck when in full dress uniform. The Russian Federation made a change to four-star shoulder boards for a "Fleet Admiral" as worn by FADMs Gromov, Kuroyedov, and Masorin.Moryak (talk) 20:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question of form

In my experience the specific word denoting a rank when used by itself is a proper noun - capitalized. Understand that if usage is Joe Johnson was an admiral, then "admiral" is not a proper noun and not capitalized. Therefore, for the purposes of the discussion of a rank it is my understanding that the rank in question should be capitalized. An example - the highest Soviet naval rank was Fleet Admiral of the Soviet Union. It strike me as odd to write - the highest Soviet naval rank was fleet admiral of the Soviet Union. Moryak (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To further my argument please see any table listing ranks and cross-service equivalents - including in the appropriate Wikipedia pages. In those tables all individual ranks are capitalized. Also, there is rife inconsistency within various Wikipedia articles that address ranks. Moryak (talk) 20:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The tables you talk about are incorrectly capitalised - one mistake in Wikipedia is not a good reason to make another. In any case, not all the tables are incorrect. One of the most-used is Template:Military ranks, and that only capitalises the first letter of a word in a list, not the whole word - thus it uses "field marshal".

The style guide is laid out at WP:MILTERMS, which states that ranks are treated under the rules governing titles of people - which in turn states that "offices, titles, and positions such as president, king, emperor, pope, bishop, abbot, executive director are common nouns and therefore should be in lower case when used generically". Have a read of proper noun to understand why "admiral of the fleet" and "sergeant" are not proper nouns, but "London", "Jupiter" and "Colonel Smith" are. Shem (talk) 08:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recognise

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