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Adine Wilson is captain of the new zealand netball team the silver ferns and is married to Jeff Wilson,ex allblack and black cap.

September 2023 changes

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@Paora: This is why I have reverted your edits.

  • Wilson played several seasons as Adine Harper. If someone searches for her by her former name they need to be able to find it. You have effectively removed her original name from the article.
  • Adine Rachel Wilson: None of the references give her middle name as Rachel. It was left over from the previous version. It should not be included in the main body of article.
  • It's totally irrelevant if her children or notable or not. Perfectly acceptable to include their names. Thousands of wiki bios name children of notable people regardless of whether their children are notable or not. Here are some random examples – David McCallum, Bruce Springsteen, Jimmy Carter, Victoria Beckham, Jacinda Ardern. Guidelines are just guidelines, they are not rules.

Djln19 Djln19 (talk) 14:06, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Djln19: This is why I have reverted your changes.
  • Using the standard format for the first sentence of the lede does not preclude someone searching for her by her maiden name from finding the article. We have redirects to solve this issue. There has been a redirect from Adine Harper to Adine Wilson since 2007. Thus, anyone searching for Adine Harper will be automatically redirected to the appropriate article.
  • I have added a reference confirming her full name.
  • The guideline regarding privacy of names includes the following note: "This is generally interpreted by the community to include the removal of names of non-notable minors from articles about their notable family members, such as when a notable individual births or sires a non-notable minor. Notability is not presumed or inherited with extremely limited exception (such as heir to a throne or similar)." Both of Wilson's children are minors, and are non-notable with no public profile. I choose to follow the general interpretation of the Wikipedia community in this case. In the "random examples" that you cite, the children are either not minors, are notable in their own right, or have been the subject of a reasonable amount of media coverage even if they do not meet Wikipedia notability criteria in their own right. The names of Wilson's children are not relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject.
Paora (talk) 08:41, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]