Talk:Adder (disambiguation)

On 8 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Adder to Adder (disambiguation). The result of the discussion was moved.

Multiplying adders

How come adders aren't extinct by now? As they're adders, they obviously can't multiply. JIP | Talk 19:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rimshot. But untrue! You get enough adders together, they can multiply:

   101  5
  x111  7
  ====
DIT KLOPT NIET (DENK IK)
equals

   101
  101 
+101  
======
100011 35

--Father Goose 20:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adder as in "Adder charge"

Is missing. (We don't have a page yet.} It often comes up in contracts and "explanation of charges" letters. I'm too nebulous on the exact meaning to DIY this. 99.11.160.111 (talk) 03:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

adder vs viper

What is the difference between adder and viper? Or isn't there any? Since for example Vipera berus article has this: Vipera berus, the common European adder or common European viper 82.141.93.49 (talk) 00:33, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Placing adder = snake topmost in list

I am placing the meaning of adder as a snake topmost in the list, for two reasons. Firstly the snake meaning is the root meaning for nearly all of the other entries. Secondly, the adder is the only venomous snake in much of Europe, and in case of snakebite emergencies this information needs to be easily visible at the top of the list. 86.133.224.70 (talk) 10:16, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 14:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adder → Adder (disambiguation) – My proposal is to go to a situation where:

Adder is a redirect to Vipera berus
Adder (disambiguation) is the current Adder page
Vipera berus gains a hatnote, possibly something like:

~~This page is about the common European adder. For other snakes referred to as adders, see List of snakes by common name § A. For other uses, see Adder (disambiguation) (disambiguation).~~

{{redirect-distinguish2 . Per WP:DPT, I checked various tools. Wikinav says that over 2/3 of visitors to Adder go on to Vipera berus, with the next closest being Adder_(electronics) (with 11.95% and 14.2% across the two months) and List of snakes by common name#A (with 11.34% and 11.74%).

wmcloud finds 20166 pageviews for Vipera berus, far more than the 9162 Adder (electronics) sees and 6873 for List of snakes by common name.

Google Books Ngram Viewer shows that "adder" has consistently been far more popular than "European adder" and (as an example) "full adder", but I don't think I can tell what sense the word adder was used in from their records.

I am aware that there are some strongly held views on how to refer to that species of snake, so any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. Aoeuidhtns (talk) 12:55, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. 86.133.224.70 (talk) 13:24, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose No primary topic between the snake and electronic device, whose name is unrelated to the snake. This seems like a textbook WP:NWFCTM situation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:05, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Very clear primary redirect to Vipera berus. Ask almost any person what an adder is and they'll tell you it's a snake, not a digital circuit! -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:03, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, this is WP:NWFCTM. Page views and search results suggest otherwise. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:42, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ I explained above what I found when I looked at this article, and it doesn't support your assertion. Do you have any evidence you are able to share? Aoeuidhtns (talk) 05:56, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is primary topic by long-term significance to the general population, not by searches by computer nerds. Pageviews are not the be all and end all and do not outweigh WP:COMMONSENSE. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:08, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The snake is PT. Srnec (talk) 20:47, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - for the reason Necrothesp gave, and the page Adder (snake) should redirect to the article about the snake, not the disambiguation page, when this RM closes it will be clear as to what title it should redirect to. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:55, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support The snake is the clear primary topic. (As a related issue, is there any species of snake known as an adder other than the common european adder?) PatGallacher (talk) 23:50, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.