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Why the WP article began

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When I started the article I included the following in its text in the vain hope that its mere appearing would spur others to improve my beginning; what happened was the message was almost immediately cut out as "it belongs in the talk page" but it was not moved there.

"First editor's note. I became tired of hitting references in WP to this line without an article so I cobbled this together from WP and other online sources and hope some other editor can improve it. Online sources give differing dates and names and some display incomprehensible turgidity."

Editor Hertzsprung has asked for some sort of listing of those references. "Reference" meant mainly "mentions in WP", now with the article existing the little black or red "New North Main Line"s in WP are mostly blue. Unlike my bête noire hobby-horse, "Sutton and Mole Valley Lines", the NNML really exists. I might try Google for it both anywhere and in en.WP. More than that at the moment I forget.--SilasW (talk) 20:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's growing fast!--Wipsenade (talk) 17:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's upgraded now!--Wipsenade (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Northolt waste compactor

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I tweaked the map to label the NNML's end junctions, but have not found a location for the waste station, I think it is between junctions (flyovers?) at Northolt Junction and not on the through line as the map shows.--SilasW (talk) 14:06, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is but I thought the location was enough given the low level of detail on the diagram. It is on the isolated piece of land created by the flying junction at Northolt. The compactor is only there as a current source of traffic for the line after all. I will work on the junction if you feel it merits greater detail (or accuracy). Britmax (talk) 09:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I went by there just once and my memory was that the waste plant might showable off the through line without the cat's cradle that some editors attempt.--SilasW (talk) 10:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Singled, etc

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This railway-speak needs to be explained. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 (talk) 14:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep!--Wipsenade (talk) 17:26, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some railspeak turms for you!

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  • A railway sleeper, railroad tie (US usage), or railway tie (Canadian usage) is a rectangular object used as a base for railroad tracks. Ties are members generally laid transverse to the rails, on which the rails are supported and fixed, to transfer the loads from rails to the ballast and subgrade, and to hold the rails to the correct gauge.
  • The Railway track on a railway (non-US) or railroad tracks (US), also known as the permanent way, is the structure consisting of the rails, fasteners, sleepers and ballast (or slab track), plus the underlying subgrade. For clarity it is often referred to as railway track (British English and UIC terminology) or railroad track (predominantly in North America). The term permanent way also refers to the track in addition to lineside structures such as fences etc.
Two unused and one heavily corroded spike. The measurement scale on the spike in the background is inches (7 inches (17.8 cm)).
  • Track ballast forms the trackbed upon which railway sleepers (UK) or railroad ties (US) are laid. It is packed between, below, and around the ties.[1] It is used to facilitate drainage of water, to distribute the load from the railroad ties, and also to keep down vegetation that might interfere with the track structure.[1]
Good quality track ballast is made of crushed stone. The sharp edges help the particles interlock with each other.
  • A rail fastening system is a means of fixing rails to railroad ties (UK sleepers). The terms rail anchors, tie plates, chairs and track fasteners are used to refer to parts or all of a rail fastening system. Various types of fastening have been used over the years.
Elements of a baseplate based rail fastening system
1. Screw for fixing plate to sleeper
2. Elastomeric pad supporting rail
3. Tension washer
4. Rail clamp
5. Tensioning bolt (nut not shown)
6. Baseplate
  • In rail terminology, a fishplate, splice bar or joint bar is a metal bar that is bolted to the ends of two rails to join them together in a track. The name is derived from fish, a wooden bar with a curved profile used to strengthen a ship's mast.[2] The top and bottom edges are tapered inwards so the device wedges itself between the top and bottom of the rail when it is bolted into place.[3] In rail transport modelling, a fishplate is often a small copper or nickel silver plate that slips onto both rails to provide the functions of maintaining alignment and electrical continuity.
Fishplate on the Bluebell Railway.


I think it's all sorted now.--Wipsenade (talk) 11:06, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b Solomon 2001, p. 18.
  2. ^ "Fish 2". Oxford English Dictionary (Second ed.). Oxford, England: Oxford University Press. 1989.
  3. ^ Morgan, C. D. (1946). "Permanent way". In Pendred, Loughan (ed.). The Engineer's Year-Book for 1946 (52 ed.). London: Morgan Brothers. p. 2015.

Info box width

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Why does the info box have "box_width = auto" twice, and yet not be wide enough for the map which displays here, but not when viewed alone, with one line of annotation wrapped giving the railway line a gap?--SilasW (talk) 08:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Correction required in Greenford area?

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A small correction is needed to the map. The siding marked J Lyons just east of Greenford should in fact be to Rockware Glass. The Lyons sidings were west of Greenford. I used to live on the Medway Estate to the south, and my Dad worked for Lyons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.118.24 (talk) 15:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right - the Lyons factory was located beside the Paddington Branch of the Grand Union Canal, just across the line from the British Bath Company factory. I'll make that correction to the map now. Bluebird207 (talk) 19:52, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Recommend this article be renamed

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The line does not run from Acton but instead from Old Oak Common Junction and then on to South Ruislip. This is mentioned in the first paragraph of the article. It will be specially mentioned that section from Old Oak Common to Greenford West Jn closed to all traffic from 10th December for construction of HS2. Steamybrian2 (talk) 16:51, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Return it to New North Main Line as that is its former name, and an existing redirect? Britmax (talk) 17:54, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]