Talk:Acrylates

Merge Acrylates group into Acrylic acid

The (great?) majority of articles on carboxylic acids are targets for redirects for the conjugate base. Examples:

Fumarate directs to fumaric acid
Oleate directs to oleic acid
glycinate directs to Glycine.

So maybe acrylate should direct to acrylic acid.--Smokefoot (talk) 14:24, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative: the esters should direct to Acrylate polymer.--Smokefoot (talk) 16:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Smokefoot Following our discussion at WT:WikiProject_Chemicals#Carboxylic_acids_vs_carboxylate_anion/esters, these articles are (slowly) being merged, although I'm not sure I've found all the potential candidates. Current exceptions are acetate, formate, butyrate and oxalate. There may be a case for this article being used as a {{See|Acrylate#polymers}} or something similar at acrylic acid. I suggest we continue this discussion on the Project page, to keep everything together. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 17:03, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please no

So all acetates are going to merge into acetic acid - because that is the logic if we merge acrylates into acrylic acid. They are all different.
Acrylic acid
Acrylates
Acrylate polymers all different -this is a bad move - far better to have a see also on each page. GRALISTAIR (talk) 13:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Diacrylates, Triacrylates, tetraacrylates

So what about 1,6-Hexanediol diacrylate and Trimethylolpropane triacrylate and Pentaerythritol tetraacrylate all are derivatives of acrylic acid - are they all going to get merged too. Absolutely crazy GRALISTAIR (talk) 13:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There was no proposal to obliterate the individual articles such as the ones that you mention. The question was whether to merge acrylate into acrylic acid. I will remove that proposal.--Smokefoot (talk) 13:51, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Then of course all methacrylates (eg the vitally important methyl methacrylate the monomer for plexiglass etc, would need to be merged into methacrylic acid too GRALISTAIR (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, as Smokefoot said, we never proposed merging the individual titles where they merited a stand-alone article. Indeed, the word "acrylate" does NOT redirect to acrylic acid because there is an article at that title which covers all sorts of acrylates. However, we did merge propionate to propionic acid, valerate to valeric acid and so on. Prior to these mergers there were short articles at the anions' pages which were not worthy to keep on their own because they were incomplete. If you want to look at the versions prior to the merger, go to the re-direct pages and look at their history. Incidentally, following the discussion, we kept formate and acetate as they were because they have large articles that merit separate consideration. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]