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American, not international

The AMPAS (as it's abbreviated in the article) is only American, and more specifically USA-ian (although that's not a word), isn't it? If I were reading the article and didn't know what the Academy was, I'd think it was an international thing. I thought about changing it, but to be sure I wasn't wrong in this (which I'm 99% certain I'm not), I decided to ask. So, isn't it only an American academy? --Sterio 20:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You propose to change what? The name of the organization? It is named what it is named, and it would be wrong for Wikipedia to pretend otherwise. AMPAS is also the largest and most prestigious organization of its type in the world, so it is most likely the article desired if people use the full name. 71.246.29.112 05:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Funding

Who funds the AoMPAaS?--141.54.138.204 (talk) 14:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Academy was formed as a union-busting device.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences was formed to stave off the formation of any guilds or unions. Here's some quotes from the book "The Hollywood Writers' Wars", by Nancy Lynn Schwartz, Alfred A. Knopf publisher, New York, 1982, pg. 8..."Functioning actually as a company union, the Academy managed to delay any serious labor organizing in Hollywood for over five years." At the dinner at the Biltmore with the first 36 people, "Mayer harangued his guests, convincing them that an organization such as the Academy would be far preferable to any craft union that was antagonistic toward the producers." "In response to the producers' desire to control all unions, on May 11, 1927, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences was established". Page 9: "The motion picture producers felt reassured by the Academy. They were aware of the struggles against producers and managers in New York by Actors' Equity and the Dramatists Guild, and they congratulated themselves on the creation of an organization that would keep the industry free from strong talent organizations." 69.104.55.216 (talk) 19:42, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. That's why it's important to not just take info from the Academy's web site and their own documents and present them as "truth." Bruriyah (talk) 20:58, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Diversity controversy regarding membership and nominations

If you google "Oscars" right now all you'll see is info about the lack of diversity, the threatened boycott and the Academy's response. After initial denials there was any problem, the Academy is now taking steps it describes as "historic." We need to make sure that this topic stays up-to-date in the article, since there's always more interest in the Academy right about Oscar time rather than any other time of the year. Need to take out info that is not properly referenced , particularly stuff that's puffery or simply copied from the Academy web site.. Bruriyah (talk) 21:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Oscars are only one feature of AMPAS, a large encompassing organization. While the controversy should certainly have a mention in this article, it properly belongs in the article relating to the actual Awards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Awards. If there are no objections I'll move the bulk of the text addressing the controversy to that article. – Sir Lionel, EG^(talk) 10:25, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Academy expulsions

Should add a section on Academy expulsions: Carmine Caridi and Harvey Weinstein. Thanks. 32.209.55.38 (talk) 16:52, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with Expulsion from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences

Despite one prominent instance currently in the news, this "subject" (expulsion) can be summarized by a single sentence or two in Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences#Expulsion, and perhaps a note in Harvey Weinstein and Carmine Caridi stating concisely that each is one of only two people to be expelled. We don't need a separate article for every conceivable event, even those that are in the news. Should we also have Expulsion from the Producers Guild of America and Revocation of the Legion of Honour? No. Come on. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:31, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree Unlikely to be anything other than a stub. Derek Andrews (talk) 09:50, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree and support a change of the article to "List of members expelled from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences". While it's true the information can be summarized in a couple sentences in this article, articles are in constant flux and the information may get removed at some point or reworded in a way that doesn't answer a reader's question "Who has been expelled from the MPAA?". Prefer to keep an article that was a well-defined topic. Jason Quinn (talk) 08:11, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We should not have spin off articles just because someone may have a question and/or is too lazy to read an existing article. Whether the article is a list or about expulsion, it has exactly 2 entries, and while it may change in the future, the subject itself (expulsion/those expelled) has not gathered sufficient coverage per WP:GNG, nor is consistently discussed as a well-defined set (see WP:LISTN). We don't need List of members of the White Stripes to find out who was in The White Stripes. Someone interested in the number of people expelled by the Academy can find that information immediately by reading Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences#Expulsion. Expulsion from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, and its original title List of individuals expelled from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, can redirect to the same section in the parent article, with absolutely zero information lost. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:24, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The country of origin of this organization

The intro doesn't explicitly and clearly state that this organization is primarily based in the USA. Could it be added?--Adûnâi (talk) 13:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Members who have resigned

I saw a section was added for members who resigned, and it erroneously said, "As of April 1, 2022, only one recipient has voluntarily resigned membership from the organization." Other members have resigned including most recently Tom Fleischman who resigned in March. [1] Without diving deep in the research, I recall reading through the years of other members resigning for one reason or another. I adjusted the introduction paragragh but did not include Fleishchman, Peter Kurland or others who have resigned in the past. --P37307 (talk) 02:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]