Talk:Academic probation

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Overgeneralisation

"However, it is not considered an expulsion to special education students (K-12 students only) since school districts are required to provide them a free appropriate public education." This is not true of all schools. Please cite the country and source if you have the information.--M3rrick 07:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't schools have to find another school for expelled students? Every student has a right to an education. I'm deleting the phrase above since there is no source for it. (209.177.21.6)

It would depend which jurisdiction you are discussing. In my country, it is not the schools responsibility to re-home excluded students, that is the responsibility of the parents and education authority for the region. Just my opinion on a matter of personal interest as this system of probation does not exist here (Scotland), i'm just sticking my nose in! --Brideshead 20:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lullerless?

No idea what this is supposed to be. No link to the Northwestern page, so I am removing this sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WiseWoman (talk • contribs) 09:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion needed

I removed the unreferenced from this because there really isn't any information here that isn't known to a college freshman. But that also means that the article the article isn't very informative as it is and needs to be expanded.--RDBury (talk) 17:30, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scope

The article has been rewritten by Uncle G to describe probationary periods for academic staff. That seems to be a special case of the probation which applies to many professions which is described in Probation (workplace). The original sense of the topic was probation for students rather than staff, as described in sources such as the Encyclopedia of distributed learning.

I'll restore and improve the original content when I have a moment and we should then consider whether to split the article or keep these related concepts together. Colonel Warden (talk) 12:25, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The general topic of probation in the workplace is actually a lot wider than the probation of academic staff in their particular workplace. Academic staff are, as noted here, subject to specific agreements. The more general topic, albeit underaddressed in our article on the subject, actually touches upon several issues that aren't necessarily even relevant to academic probation. For example, there are legal issues when it comes to specifying probation periods in employment contracts that can, if an employer is not careful, nullify any "at will" dissmissal rights that an employer might want to retain. This sort of stuff belongs in the general article, of course. And conversely, the Academic and Related Salaries Settlement doesn't apply to other forms of employment. Uncle G (talk) 03:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]