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Cleanup

Article needs cleenup. [1]. Also, this needs to be added:

Hazrat Abu Ubaydah bin Jarrah (RA) was the gravedigger for the Makkans, and Hazrat Abu Talha Zayd bin Sahl (RA) was the gravedigger for the people of Madina. Rasulullah (peace and blessing be upon him) 's relatives could not choose between them. Rasulullah (peace and blessing be upon him) 's uncle Hazrat Abbas (RA) sent two men to call the grave diggers for consultation. Only one was found and could respond to the call, and that was Hazrat Abu Talhah (RA) from the people of Madina. He therefore was asked to dig a grave for Rasulullah (peace and blessing be upon him) as he knew best. [2]

--Striver 21:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The new article.

i have composed a completely new article with the following heading...

intorduction.

1-early life

2-converting to islam

3-migration to ethopia

4-arival at madinah

5-in Mohammad(pbuh)'s Era

6-in Abu bakr's Era

7-in Umar's Era

8-Apointment as commander in chief

9-Conquest of Syria

10-Drought

11-plague epidemic

12-Death

13-Legacy

14-Family

Mohammad Adil 17:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It good to know that u have included more information. But I would suggest appending the new article with the previous one and clean it up. Please do it as soon as u get chance.--Smus 01:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Move

Per WP:TERSE and WP:COMMON, this page needs to move to Abu Ubaidah (ngram). If that page is already pointing here, he's obviously the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and there's no point in including additional parts of his Islamic name. It's the other people who need to be dabbed. — $Llywelyn II$ 12:15, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple references to a 'Sharjeel'

Which, I assume is supposed to be Shurahbil ibn Hassna. The Arabic spellings are very close, visually, so that could be the root of the issue. Being شرحبيل for Shurahbil and شرجيل for Sharjeel. As far as I know, there was no 'Sharjeel' that was prominently involved at the time with the Arab/Islamic forces, specially during the campaigns for the Levant in which Shurahbil was prominent.

Naifsaurus (talk) 15:07, 10 March 2016 (UTC)naifsaurus[reply]

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Family

Relocating this here as it is unsourced and I have not been able to verify. If anyone has a reliable source for this, please provide it here or in the article:

Little is known about Abu Ubayda's family. He had two wives. He had two sons, Yazid and ‘Umair from his wife Hind bint Jabir ibn Wahb ibn Dabab ibn Hujayr ibn ‘Abd ibn Ma’is ibn ‘Amir ibn Lu’ay. From his wife Warja he had his son Umair, but all of them died in childhood.

Al Ameer (talk) 03:25, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move April 2022

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 18:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abu Ubayda ibn al-Jarrah → Abu Ubayda – The usage of 'ibn al-Jarrah' ('son of al-Jarrah) is incorrect as Abu Ubayda's real name was Amir ibn Abd Allah ibn al-Jarrah or Abu Ubayda ibn Abd Allah, not ibn al-Jarrah. Abu Ubayda is the WP:COMMONNAME for this figure and Abu Ubayda most commonly refers to this figure and the title itself redirects to this article. There is a disambiguation for its variant spelling 'Abu Ubaidah', which could sometimes refer to someone else. However, the spelling 'Abu Ubayda' almost always refers to this commander. ─ Al-Thawr ^{^(talk)} 09:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The current title, in its entirety, is the common name. Also, there are other notable Abu Ubayda's even if this one is the best known. Al Ameer (talk) 00:48, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Clearly common name in usage. Skipping over patronyms to emphasize a more famous (if more remote) ancestor is a frequent enough practice in old Arab families. Walrasiad (talk) 04:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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