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The neutrality of this article is disputed:- The page is more of a propaganda of Abiy Ahmed, than showing the real picture

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Hello all, The page lacks neutrality. The page is more of propaganda for Abiy Ahmed than showing the real picture. It is mostly written to glorify Abiy Ahmed's image.

  • It has many dubious claims which seem to be added to glorify Abiy Ahmed. They could be claims Abiy Ahmed said, but they are very dubious, and they seem to be added for poetical advantage purposes.
  • It is unproportionally critical of Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF).
  • It does not address almost at all the 3.5 million internally displaced persons (IDPs), who the vast majority were displaced as a result of Abiy's reforms.
  • There are reports of organised ethnic cleansing and systematic persecutions by Abiy Ahmed's regional local-officials, police, and militias which the article needs to address well.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]

Best regards, Truth gatekeeper (talk) 08:51, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note that this editor has been indefinitely blocked, partially because of WP:BLP violations, also misuse of sources, original research, stating disputed matter as fact, and NPOV violations, ironically. Generally a lack of understanding of policy. Doug Weller talk 19:06, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

However, her heart was in the right place and the indefinite ban was eventually lifted after one and a half long years (although she is currently subject to an unfair and unreasonable six month topic ban on editing "Horn of Africa" pages). I can't resist noting that recent very sad developments in Tigray indicate why she was so upset about biased reporting... BushelCandle 06:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Abiy Ahmed is a war criminal. That's undisputable.

https://www.justsecurity.org/77590/famine-in-tigray-humanitarian-access-and-the-war-crime-of-starvation/?fbclid=IwAR2AkIz5bsvu03uDWqWxydUTskXQps4pBNo9W43oanvjH3DAX8rkyD-S1ws

https://opiniojuris.org/2021/05/18/pandemic-of-hunger-symposium-the-ethio-eritrean-hunger-plan-for-tigray-and-the-failure-of-resolution-2417/

These are reputable sources. The Ethiopian minister's Facebook pages aren't.

References

  1. ^ "TheGuardian, "Shadow falls over Ethiopia reforms as warnings of crisis go unheeded"".
  2. ^ "Reuters, "Ethnic unrest tarnishes new Ethiopian leader's reforms"".
  3. ^ "EuroNews, "Ethiopia: 3 million internally displaced in escalating humanitarian crisis"".
  4. ^ "Tigrai-Online, "Dr Abiy Ahmed's audacious move to rehabilitate perpetrator of genocide"".
  5. ^ "Tigrai-Online, "Dr Abiy Ahmed's calamitous odyssey approaching its climax"".
  6. ^ "AfricaNews, "Ethiopia PM conducting political, ethnic witch-hunt – Tigray chair"".
  7. ^ "Reuters, " 'Nobody will kneel': Tigrayans defiant as Ethiopian leader cracks down"".
  8. ^ "AfricaNews, " Ethiopia PM's crackdown targeting Tigrayans – Ex-Minister"".
  9. ^ "Tigrai-Online, " Do you have full confidence in Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed Ali to lead Ethiopia?"".

14 year-old fighter?

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At the time of writing this, our article currently states:

"As a teenager and in early 1991, [1] he joined the armed struggle against the Marxist–Leninist regime of Mengistu Haile Mariam after the death of his oldest brother. He did so as a member of ODP (Oromo Democratic Party), which at that time was a tiny organization of only around 200 fighters in the large coalition army of about 100,000 fighters that resulted in regime's fall later that year.[2][3][4] As there were only so few ODP fighters in an army with its core of about 90,000 Tigrayans, Abiy quickly had to learn the Tigrinya language. As a speaker of Tigrinya in a security apparatus dominated by Tigrayans, he could move forward with his military career.[2]"

Although this is an extraordinary claim it is not impossible but I would like to see a better source that Abiy was only fourteen and a half when he joined the armed struggle.

Does anyone know if there is an official biography that I can look at online? -- BushelCandle06:16, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Endeshaw, Dawit (31 March 2018). "The rise of Abiy "Abiyot" Ahmed". The Reporter Ethiopia. Retrieved 25 March 2019. For some time the EPRDF, was in talks with the OLF; in fact, the later was part of the then transitional government. OLF was, at the time, very popular in Oromia region. However, the peaceful talks failed to bear fruit as things turn to become violent. That was when alternative forces like the Oromo People's Democratic Organization (OPDO) came to the fore.
    According to people who witnessed that critical period, the OLF had strong support in Agaro like most parts of Oromia region.
    It was at that time that Abiy's family was directly affected by the political transition in the country. Abiy's father and his eldest son, Kedir Ahmed, were arrested for some time.
    Unfortunately, Kedir was killed during that time in what was believed to be a politically motivated assassination, according to people close to the family.
    By the time, Agaro, which now has a population of, 41,085, was believed to be a stronghold of the OLF.
    "I think losing his brother at that age was a turning point in Abiy's life," Miftah Hudin Aba Jebel, a childhood friend of Abiy, told The Reporter. "I mean we were young and I remember one night Abiy asking me to join the struggle," he recalls. "To be honest, it was difficult for me to understand what he was saying."
    According to multiple sources, Abiy joined the struggle during early 1991, just a few months before the downfall of the military regime, almost at the age of 15.
    "By the time we were teenagers; Abiy, another young man by the name Komitas, who was a driver for Abadula Gemeda at the time, and myself joined the OPDO," Getish Mamo, the then member of OPDO's music band called Bifttu Oromia, told The Reporter. "We were also close with Abadula Gemeda." Abadula was one of the founders of the OPDO and current speaker of the House of People's Representatives.
    Abiy, at the time, was working as a radio operator, according to Getish.     {{cite news}}: line feed character in |quote= at position 365 (help)
  2. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference prelude was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference abiyot was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  4. ^ "Dr Abiy Ahmed interview with Amhara TV", ZeHabesha TV, 2017-11-21, retrieved 2018-02-18 – via YouTube

4th or 15th Prime Minister

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Recently, an editor using the IP address of 197.156.95.9 made the following comment on my talk page: "...as I've seen in the article Abiy Ahmed, he's in 15th prime minister, not fourth. In addition, the person full name describes in bold. There is million people who have a name "Abiy". Otherwise it's seems like disruption or vandalism due to ambiguous office holding position. If he is in fourth position, it should be supported by reliable sources."

Recently, an IP editor made the unsourced change from 4th to 15th.

There is a tradition for biographies of living persons in the English language Wikipedia to only use the shortened form of an individuals name after the first mention (in bold).

Although Abiy may be regarded as the 15th head of government of modern Ethiopia, the "Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia’s Office of the Prime Minister" currently states on its website page: "H.E. Abiy Ahmed Ali (PhD) is the fourth Prime Minister of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia"[1] and I sincerely believe that the government website is a reasonably reliable source.--BushelCandle (talk) 00:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Prime Minister". The Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia’s Office of the Prime Minister. Retrieved 6 June 2019. H.E. Abiy Ahmed Ali (PhD) is the fourth Prime Minister of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia

Amharic spelling: which should we use?

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We currently have in the Amharic alphasyllabary:

and these each differ from one another. Only the 'y' in Abiy, and the 'A' and 'd' in Ahmed seem to have consensus.

What policy do we have in cases like this? My guess is either go by the subject's preferred spelling or by the most widely used spelling in reliable sources. The most widely WP:RS spelling would need evidence. Personal preferences would presumably go by the spelling on the official government profile. Boud (talk) 23:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Someone's edit of 1 May switched to:
  • ዐቢይ አሕመድ ዐሊ , which is the third in the list above (+ Ali) - from https://pmo.gov.et/pm
Boud (talk) 19:10, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of sufficient page watching?

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There are currently 143 watchers of this BLP page but it took over 12 hours from this edit changing Abiy's father's ethnicity, in contradiction to the NYT source, to be reverted. Boud (talk) 15:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It took over 12 hours for this edit referring to genocide and concentration camps to be reverted. There's nothing wrong with raising the issues of genocide and concentration camps in this context, but the article is an encyclopedic article for a living person, so they can only be added to the page with good quality sources that establish the notability of the info and with words that accurately and carefully summarise what the sources say. Are most of the watchers just lurkers? Boud (talk) 19:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ሠለም ክቡር ሚኒስቴር እኔ ደቡቢአፍሪካ ነኝ ሀገሬን ውሰዱኝ 102.217.176.6 (talk) 12:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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