Talk:Abdisho IV Maron

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Abdisho IV Maron article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Biography

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool because one or more other projects use this class. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the `\|auto=` parameter.

Assyria Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Assyria, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Assyrian-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.AssyriaWikipedia:WikiProject AssyriaTemplate:WikiProject AssyriaAssyrian articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Catholicism Low‑importance

Abdisho IV Maron is within the scope of WikiProject Catholicism, an attempt to better organize and improve the quality of information in articles related to the Catholic Church. For more information, visit the project page.CatholicismWikipedia:WikiProject CatholicismTemplate:WikiProject CatholicismCatholicism articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Catholicism task list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : see Draft articles
Assess : see Category:Unassessed Catholicism articles; Category:Unknown-importance Catholicism articles
Cleanup : Blessed Virgin Mary (see the talk page)
Collaborate : Invitation template needed, see Category:WikiProject invitation templates
Copyedit : Cuthbert Tunstall
Expand : Angelus; Roman Catholicism in Kosovo; Bishop Adolph John Paschang; Cum sæpe accidere; Altar Society; American Board of Catholic Missions; Bernard Häring
NPOV : Americanism (heresy); Ensoulment
Photo : see Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of Catholicism
Stubs : see Category:Stub-Class Catholicism articles; Category:Catholic Church stubs
Update : Peer review; John Aloysius Maguire
Verify : Archdiocese of Glasgow; Archbishop of Westminster; Bishop; Saint Mungo; Sanctification; Westminster Cathedral
Other : Watch recent changes for Catholicism articles

End date of his Patriarchal role?

Wikipedia says 1570. The Dictionary of Christian Biography (ISBN 082647960X) lists it as 1567. I can do some more research and see if I can find a WP:RS to confirm. —Tom Morris (talk) 01:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This kind of dates are not well known and different scholars have different suggestions: this because most of informations cames from ancient letters kept in the Vatican which are anyway second-hand sources. Thus Wiki says "Among the different possible dates of Abdisho's death, Murre suggests the 11 September 1570", and reference to Murre Article is given. Wiki correctly gives precedence to a specialistic recent article of a modern scholar which have searched first-hand informations, in this case checking the data engraved in the Patriarchal tombs. For sure specialistic modern scholarity literature is more reliable than a general Dictionary of Christian Biography. A ntv (talk) 08:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The same date is given also by the "bible" of the CoE, which is the most WP:RS you can find: Wilmshurst, David (2000). The Ecclesiastical Organisation of the Church of the East, 1318-1913. Louvain-La-Neuve: Peeters. p. 94. ISBN 9789042908765.A ntv (talk) 19:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, A ntv. I'm just going through a very general dictionaries and encyclopedias, mostly to check how complete Wikipedia is. Thanks again. —Tom Morris (talk) 20:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Abdisho IV Maron. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20081222173041/http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye/Vol2No2/HV2N2Murre.html to http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye/Vol2No2/HV2N2Murre.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:19, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]