Talk:Abd Allah ibn Salam

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Torah, or Tanakh?

Could it be perhaps that Abdullah ibn Salam has converted into Islam, due to recognizing the prophecies of the coming Messenger, Mohammad, through his study of the Tanakh, instead of just only the Torah?

Because many Islamic scholars had confused the Torah to be the "Hebrew Bible." What I mean by the Hebrew Bible, I am referring to the "Old Testament" (the referred title by the Christians), or simply "Bible." The Hebrew Bible ("Tanakh") is not the Torah; the Torah is not the entire Hebrew Bible. Now, to say that the prophecies of Mohammad is in the Torah, is correct. But it eludes the fact that also the rest of the Bible also contains these such prophecies. Again, Islamic scholars made a huge error to think, and teach other Muslims, that the Bible is the Torah, without regarding that there are also other compiled works contained therein.

My major point is that the article should be accurate when it comes to information, as to not lead the avid readers into thinking that the Torah was the only account to be in place.

I strongly urge that any mention of the "Torah" in the article be changed to either "Hebrew Bible" or "Tanakh."

I would do the edit myself...but I am taking the awareness that other editors, who are knowledgeable in Islamic history would not fully understand my changes, without giving the explanation why it was changed as such, and may reject it without consensus of historical content.

When a Jewish scholar is studying the Torah...they are referring to the Law only, and the history of Bani Israel in the Wilderness with Moses. They are never referring that they are studying the accounts and revelations of Saul, David, Solomon, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, and et cetera. Plainly, because notable people, Saul, David, Solomon, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, and et cetera, are not in the Torah, but in the portion of the Bible, that isn't in the Torah. Jewish scholars also study the Tanakh, but not limited to the Torah alone. Most of the revelations are in fact in the Bible, not in the Torah alone.

I do know for a fact that thousands of Islamic scholars and learned intellects of Islam, when referring to the Torah, they really mean "Bible" and that when they mention "bible", they are actually referring to only the Torah. They are in huge error, although not by intending this mistake on purpose. They just never been fully aware of Jewish history and how the Bible has became into the picture.

Because of this mistake, many people who are learning about Islam, stumbling across any account that the Torah is the bible, tend to think that maybe Islam is not really full of knowledge. Islam is, in fact, a religion that contains so much truth, but when it comes to the Muslims, they distort the truth by accident...but the readers don't know that..they take everything as superficial when first approached with such knowledge.

The written Torah is only of five books: the books of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy; and nothing more. To say that the Torah is the Bible is inaccurate, however, the Torah is in the Bible, comprising the beginning of the Bible, the first five books.

The Hebrew Bible is a compilation of other ancient Jewish records made by scribes of the prophets of old, such as Joshua, David, Solomon, Jeremiah, Isaiah, and so forth, and by other inspired authors who held accounts of the prophets of old in the history of Bani Israel. Also, of other written works that had been attributed to the prophets, such as David with the "Psalms", and Solomon with the "Song of Songs" (or known as Songs of Solomon), Ecclesiastes, and so forth.

Many of these prophets of old has given revelations of the coming prophet Mohammad, which are hidden in the texts of the Tanakh, which is the Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament. Although there is a few accounts of prophecies of Mohammad in the Torah.

However, the Torah became compiled into the Bible, along with the other collections of records/books, such as the Books of the Prophets ("Nebi'im"), and the Books of the Writings ("Ketubim")...thus we have the acronym T-N-K: Torah, Nebi'im, Ketubim. This is the entire works of Hebrew Bible.

RekonDog (talk) 19:21, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]