Talk:Aaron Rowand/GA1

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Reviewer: Kncny11 (talk · contribs) 15:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to figure out why this name sounded so familiar. Then I got to go to the Phillies game on the anniversary of the day he smashed his face in making a catch! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 15:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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Infobox and lede

Need citation for his height, weight, and middle name (MLB.com always has all of these)
Mention in lede that, in addition to his other 2007 accomplishments, he was an All-Star
"in the 2010 World Series" → "in 2010"

Early life and college career

"According to his high school coach, Rowand hit .650 in high school" → "According to his high school coach, Rowand hit over .650 during his time at Glendora" or something to that effect to reduce the repetition of "high school"
Link "the Titans" to Cal State Fullerton Titans baseball
Pipe "exhibition contest" to exhibition game

Minor league career

"He started his professional career in 1998" → "He started his professional career that season"
Mention that the Warthogs were Class A-Advanced
WL MLB.com
WL National League and All-Star

Major league career

Chicago White Sox

"Used sparingly initially" → "Although he was initially used sparingly" (the double adverb looks a little awkward)
"centerfielder" (one word) is used a few times in this section, while "center fielder" (two words) is used elsewhere in the article
delink Kansas City Royals in the 2002 section
"2002-03 off season" → "2002–03 offseason"
Comma after "2002–03 offseason"
WL first instance of spring training
Comma after "in both of Rowand's two-home-run games, said"
Are only the stolen bases a career high? If so, I'd specify that

Philadelphia Phillies

The start of this section seems abrupt as it is, maybe move the paragraph in the prior section beginning "After the season" down here?
""effort and determination."" → ""effort and determination"." per MOS:LQ
"bleacherreport.com" → "Bleacher Report"
"Thomas Harrigan of MLB.com listed it among the best ever in 2019" → "and, in 2019, Thomas Harrigan of MLB.com listed the catch as among the best ever" (or something to that effect)
hyphen to en dash for "and the Phillies won 2–0"
"Rowand suffered a broken nose and severe lacerations to his face as a result of the play/catch/whatever"
He was set to become a free agent after the 2007 season, yes? That's how I'm reading it
~~spell out the NLDS acronym in its first appearance~~ scratch that, I'm working mostly backwards and saw ALDS spelled out earlier
Also rip to Rowand signing with the Giants the year before the Phils took the World Series
- They might not've if he'd stuck with the team; Victorino was really good! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

San Francisco Giants

"five-year-$60-million" → "five-year, $60 million"
delink Giants, mentioned earlier
""if guys have some good years."" → ""if guys have some good years"." per MOS:LQ
en dash for "72–90 finish"
~~fill out the NCLS acronym when it's first introduced~~ scratch that, see above
"relpaced" → "replaced" in the second paragraph of 2010

Personal life

I don't see the birth dates for his kids listed on his MLB bio
- You're right, thanks for noticing! I was having trouble finding the dates listed in any reliable source, so took out all info except what is given on mlb.com. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 13:09, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
make spring training lowercase

References

Twitter isn't a great source if there are alternatives, try this ESPN article
Usually The New York Post is also not supposed to be used. However, I believe in nuance, and Kevin Kernan is a hugely accomplished baseball journalist, so his coverage falls under the "subject-matter experts" clause of these types of unreliable sources
- Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I was going to say that Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources said the main concern was with the headlines, not the articles themselves, but consulting it now, it looks like the Post's reputation has suffered since the last time I checked. As you say, though, Kevin Kernan is a subject-matter expert. I'll keep this in mind for future articles. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just like in the body, "bleacherreport.com" → "Bleacher Report"
Some hyphens that should be en dashes in the ESPN sources: "12-10 slugfest" and "4-6 weeks"
Chicago Sun-Times is listed as Chicago Sun-Times in [89] and The Chicago Sun Times in [93]; the WP page title suggests that the former is correct

General comments

Broadness and focus are both good, gives a solid overview of his career
Stability is good, pretty much one active editor
Pictures all look solid
Colossally nitpicky thing, but I was told during the Aaron Nola GA review that, per MOS, picture captions don't end in periods
- I think the exact rule is they don't unless the caption is a complete sentence. These aren't, though, so I took all the periods out. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:29, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Largely free of editorializing, maybe a little with regards to the face-breaking catch, but sports journalists regularly refer to it as a great catch
Earwig copyvio score looks great at 17.4%!

Sanfranciscogiants17, a smattering of minor things. As always, let me know if you have any questions! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 19:11, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I fixed a couple quick typos and this one is ready to go! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 15:17, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]