Talk:A Toast to Men

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Debate

Stop deleting the fact that A Toast To Men (F*ck the Men) was featured on Gay.com's Winter 2004 Hits' album and appears in 3 major Hollywood movies and connects musician Toby Gad to his new manager, David Sonenberg. This is backed up by sources and there is no reason it should be removed ever again!

Trivia is for trivia not ablums. Second if you are going to say it appears in 3 Major Hollywood movies, name the movies.

1. Trivia is not just for albums, this is wikipedia not your rules. 2. Gay.com's Winter 2004 Hits is an album 3. Well I have a source to prove it, and it is on there, you know it. The sources are:

A Toast To Men (F*ck The Men) is featured on Gay.com's Winter 2004 Hits' album. *Gay.com Winter 2004 Hits (Soundtrack/Album)
A Toast To Men (F*ck The Men) appears in 3 major Hollywood movies and connects musician Toby Gad to his new manager, David Sonenberg.

Trivia is for trivia only, not to put what albums the song appears on, if that was the case songs like “I Wanna Be Bad” would have a huge trivia. The information isn’t trivia it’s discography.

Second don't just say that it appears in three movies, name the three movies.

Also it was "Gay.com Winter 2003 CD" Sampler.

I fixed it so it will remain. The movies will also remain because the source is varified and there is no reason why it should be removed.

Once again stop removing the information!

Willa gets the rights to the album "Sexy Sex Obsessive" in July 2006. It was stated on the Nastified message board by herself. However, she has no idea on when or if she will indeed release it.

It was IWBB that has been in 3 movies: Undercover Brother, What a Girl Wants, and Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star. ATTM only has been in one movie, Barbershop 2. Toby Gad’s site just mixed up the two songs.

A Toast To Men also does. Just because you don't know doesn't mean you cna ssume. It didn't mix them up, considering it says that ATTM being featured in the movies connected him to his manager in 2003/2004 and IWBB was 2001/2002!

ATTM don’t appear in 3 movies. I didn’t assume I looked it up on three different sites, also have searched it on google and yahoo and have found no other movie other than Barbershop 2 that ATTM appears in.

Toby Gad’s site no longer says it appears in three movies, since it never did. It has been corrected on and now says, “Toby spends countless days running from door to door at record labels, publishing companies, music law firms and managements. Eventually, Lava records gives him the chance to work with MTV host Willa Ford. Their single "Toast To Men" becomes a #40 radio single. The song appears in the hit movie "Barbershop 2" and connects Toby to her manager David Sonenberg who then proposes to become his exclusive manager.” [1]

“Toby produced and co-wrote this raunchy top 40 radio sorority anthem performed by former MTV host Willa Ford and rap artist Lady May. The song appeared in the Queen Latifa hit movie Barbershop II.” [2].

If you are sure that ATTM appears in three movies please list the three movies it appears in, and site the sources for each!

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Is the '*' in the word fuck actually used in the title of the song? Or is this just added? -24.92.41.95 02:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hrmn... I've tried to look it up with no success... I'll keep looking. Wikipedia is not censored, so if it's not the correct title, it should be corrected. I'll do this soon, unless I find differently. --Storkk 00:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The title appears to include the asterisk(s) – usually one but sometimes two – and is not bowdlerized. However, a Google search suggests that f**k is used three times as often as f**ck. Additionally, the webpage used as a citation for f**ck actually uses a mix: f**ck in the tracklist but f**k in the page title and product description/single title. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:05, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Reidgreg: I went with how the song was presented in the track listing itself. The actual title itself, as noted in the lead, had various ways of being presented. It is a weird case as it seems like media outlets/retailers spelled it however they wanted to. Aoba47 (talk) 14:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it seems like there's variation between the track and the single title. I didn't change it but I thought I should mention it, trying to be thorough. Plus I wanted to say "bowdlerized" – named for a guy who published a censored works of Shakespeare. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:37, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I can appreciate that lol. Aoba47 (talk) 14:19, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]