Talk:A Thousand Leaves/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Famous Hobo (talk · contribs) 20:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I'll take up this review. Seems like an interesting article. Should have a review out soon. Famous Hobo (talk) 20:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Update So my apologies for not getting this review out yet. I hate to keep using the "outside stuff is holding me back" excuse, but, well, outside stuff is holding me back. But I'll have the review done by tomorrow. Thanks for being patient Famous Hobo (talk) 03:29, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Take your time. I'm aware that we all have a life outside this site. Cheers --Niwi3 (talk) 19:47, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, almost done with the review. I'm going to be out for the next few hours, so I'll leave you with a few comments.

I like to work backwards with my reviews. Don't ask why, I'm just weird like that. If I comment on something that was explained earlier in the article, I'll fix it once I reach that point. Hopefully this isn't disorienting.

Release

According to Moore, the image is a reference to the Unlimited Edition compilation album by German experimental rock band Can. Could you explain a little more about what the album cover depicts. The next sentence describes what the cover was going to look like, so I think it's important to mention what it currently looks like.

Added some new info which I found in Goodbye 20th Century: A Biography of Sonic Youth. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The band also supported the album with a tour across the US and Canada in May and June 1998. US should be United States. I may be wrong in saying this, but I don't think May and June 1998 in grammatically correct (or something like that. If it is correct, please explain why). It should be changed to "from May to June in 1998".

Fixed. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Critical Reception

praised its quiet guitars and unpredictable twists, which help keep the lengthy songs captivating. Should be changed to "kept the lengthy songs captivating" to keep with past tense in the sentence.

Done. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brent DiCrescenzo cited "Hits of Sunshine (For Allen Ginsberg)" as the album's centerpiece, highlighting the jamming, improvising, and guitar interplay between Moore and Ranaldo. The review states the guitar interplay was for the album as a whole, not the song.

Clarified. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not all reviews were positive, though. It might just be me, but the though at the end seems a little informal.

Reworded. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

commenting that the album "really does sound like a demo — eleven songs waiting for better organization and cliché removal." Wikilink demo, and put the quotation mark before the period.

Fixed. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Thompson of The A.V. Club felt that the album rarely contains fully formed songs Again, contains should be in past tense.

Fixed. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Track listing

All good here.

Personnel

All good here.

Charts

The way both charts are right now is fine, but may I introduce you to Albumchart and Singlechart? They'll make this part easier and more uniform with the majority of charts sections from other articles. If you're confused about it, feel free to use Endgame as an example.

I'm not sure if you can properly archive the URLs with these templates. Also, I like to keep the URLs consistent in their corresponding section at the bottom of the page. Is it really an issue? Thanks. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

For the authors of each ref, the name should go last, then first. For example, instead of Chris Morris, it's Morris, Chris. Use last= and first= for the citation.

~~Will fix that tomorrow as I will have more time.~~ --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Niwi3 (talk) 20:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink Stephen Thomas Erlewine in ref 6

Done. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your review, really appreciated. I've fixed several issues and will continue tomorrow as I will have more free time. Cheers. --Niwi3 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the issues you brought up and left some comments above. Please let me know if there are more issues that need to be addressed. Thanks. --Niwi3 (talk) 20:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Almost there, just a few more things I noticed:

Music and lyrics

while "Hoarfrost", which was originally titled "Woodland Ode", was inspired when... Is it really necessary to include the info on the original title? It doesn't add to the article in any way.

I personally think the original title helps describe what the song is about. --Niwi3 (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Background

After Washing Machine, the band started writing new songs from extended improvisations in rehearsal Change started to began.

I agree. It sounds much better now. --Niwi3 (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Several instrumental jams were released in a series of EPs through the band's own record label Write out extended plays and wikilink it. Same goes for the other mention of EP's in the lead and background, but don't wikilink that one.

Done. --Niwi3 (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Everything looks good.

Alright, that's everything. Once those small issues are addressed, then I'll have no problem promoting this article. It's obvious this ain't your first go around with album articles, given your work with Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star and Washing Machine, so I knew it wasn't going to be too difficult to promote. BTW, would you mind repaying the favor and review my GAN?

Thank you for your time and review. I'll try to have a look at your GAN this weekend as I'm quite busy right now. However, one thing that concerns me a bit is its notability. Most of the sources are about the album and not about the actual song. This means that the song is covered in the frames of its parent article (the album). Wouldn't it be better to have a Music and Lyrics section in the Endgame article where you can talk about the songs of the album? Cheers. --Niwi3 (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, everything has now been addressed. Thanks for the explanations for each issue not addressed. I now can safely call this a GA. Congrats. In terms of my GA, I won't go into too much detail since this page should be dedicated to this review, but I do believe it meets the notability standards (barley), because the band chose it to be a single, and it charted so highly on the Rock Songs chart.