Talk:A Tale of Magic...

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Did you know... that author Chris Colfer (pictured) described A Tale of Magic... as a "manifesto of compassion"?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 08:55, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Chris Colfer

... that A Tale of Magic... is the "toughest book" Chris Colfer (pictured) ever wrote? Source: Slater, Georgia (July 25, 2019). Chris Colfer's new fantasy book 'A Tale of Magic' aims to inspire those fighting injustice. USA Today.
- ALT1:... that when writing A Tale of Magic..., Chris Colfer (pictured) was influenced by the anger and helplessness he felt from the state of the world? Source: Colfer, Chris (October 15, 2019). Chris Colfer's Kids' Book 'A Tale of Magic' Is Fighting Ex-Gay Therapy. The Advocate (Interview). Interviewed by Daniel Reynolds.
- ALT2:... that author Chris Colfer (pictured) described A Tale of Magic... as a manifesto of compassion? Source: same at ALT1
- ALT3:... that Chris Colfer (pictured) was influenced by trauma from the September 11 attacks when writing A Tale of Magic...? Source: same as ALT1
- ALT4:... that Chris Colfer (pictured) wrote A Tale of Magic... as something teachers and parents could use as a point of reference when explaining troubling things to children? Source: same as ALT1

Created/expanded by Pamzeis (talk). Self-nominated at 02:58, 17 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Article new and long enough. While the plot section is just under 700 words, it is also half of all prose text on the page, which feels like too much. Fifth nom so no QPQ needed. Hooks all check out in article, though I feel like ALT2 and 3 are the best, with ALT0 another option. 1 and 4 are a little vague/empty for my preference. The image is commons and used in the article, but even the infobox image of Colfer is better quality and more recent, so I would either not use the current image or change which image is used in the article (and set an upright parameter for portrait images so they're not so big!) For general improvements, the reception section really needs work, and one quotation plus text that is not quoted in the paragraph-long "summary" of Common Sense Media's review actually are more than 25% of the source text - even attributing the second part (messages of kindness, teamwork, inclusion, and being the best you can be) as a quote that is a lot of direct text that you have copyvio concerns about. Similarly, there are large parts from The Advocate's article that are not quoted but lifted directly, here in the "Influences" (and it should be "Influences", not "Influences and messages"...) section. Clean-up needed to pass: improve image if you want to use the image, cut down plot and/or expand real world text, fix quotations and potential copyvio. Kingsif (talk) 17:15, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif: I think I've resolved the issues you've addressed. Pamzeis (talk) 03:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Preference for ALT2 (without wikilinking manifesto/compassion as common terms), ALT3, or ALT0, but all check out. Kingsif (talk) 13:25, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]