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AN/ASQ-119 was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 10 December 2013 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of military electronics of the United States. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

AN/TAS-4 was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 05 December 2013 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of military electronics of the United States. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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List of radars

When I find the time, I plan to add the US JETDS radars from List of radars to this article. 70.251.32.227 (talk) 20:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bogus links

A lot of (supposed) equipment links were actually pointing to various aircraft and ship pages. (For example, the AN/ALQ-213 link was pointing at F-16 Fighting Falcon variants.) I'm guessing that a bot came through here at some and tried to deal with red links (or something)... I dunno. [shrug]

Bot, no. That was me! ;) It's more the other way around though; was trying to unify many of the disparate mentions of electronic systems by their designation codes, and to standarize the layout of this page. I knew many of the links weren't ideal, but they were what existed at the time; it was all about bang for the buck. If they now have pages in their own right, then I have been somewhat successful! 70.250.179.149 (talk) 01:19, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the links so they now point at the appropriate equipment pages (and created some new red links in the process, in keeping with the rest of the page). -- Eriksiers (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the cross connect problem with this page is just one of many. ultimatly this page could wind up being a mile long. the infanite number of types and versions (number) is mind boggling. whenever someone writes up a piece of equipment, half the time thay dont use the proper JTEDS nominclature, and then thay dont bother to catagorize it. I did a AN/ search once and tried to get everything cated. and listed. but it probably needs done again. and for some reason I get the feeling Im the only one who understands that if theres a 150 of somthing, than thers a 1-149 of somthing. Brian in denver (talk) 16:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I did the same thing. Unfortunately, not everything can be found by searching for the AN/, as common convention is to drop it, and many article names don't specify the designation at all. My goal is not to catalog everything, but I would like to get a better appreciation of what the bounds really are: what information is available, and from where? Is there a government document that enumerates these somewhere? If that info is available, I definitely feel it's relevant to the article here.

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Criteria to be On the List

I'd like to recommend this list be pared down quite a bit. There are far too many systems named on this list that will NEVER have an article written, yet there are links to that equipment here without any sort of description. I was about to add tons more information on systems not mentioned here from the website for Designations Of U.S. Military Electronic And Communications Equipment by Andreas Parch. Then I realized that I'd be wasting my time if the articles for all that equipment could never be written.

Wouldn't it be better to remove any links from this article that do not have even a description? Having only the AN designation with no description certainly does not help any researcher, so I'm not sure what good they do on this list... Thoughts from anyone? TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 19:58, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aye. Remove red links but save the text for the generations to come. A splendid idea. The only good is that they could shed some light upon a function of yet another AN/ if the last three letters do match and the numerals are somewhere not too far (if we know for sure that AN/ARC-27 and the rest ARCs are aircraft radio communication systems, then we can assume with a considerable amount of accuracy that ARC-1 to -10 also belong to that kind of stuff). ВоенТех (talk) 18:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @ВоенТех: I will work on it starting from the top of the list. But this is a huge endeavor. Would you be able to start at the bottom of the list and we meet somewhere in the middle? Looking at the much more exhaustive listing here (JETDS AN/ Listings), there are tons of equipment designations that never made it to this list. Not sure it would be helpful to scour and scrub the entire list adding things that will never have articles. Thoughts? Am I wasting my time here? TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 21:49, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Its bottom is not yet reached (because it is bottomless). I'm thinking about to turn the list into a table:

Designation	Service	Function	Manufacturers
AN/ZZZ-100	USN	doomsday machine stereo	Simmens
AN/ZZZ-101	USAF	another doomsday machine stereo	Bosch
AN/ZZZ-102	Tri-service	jugganath jammer	Philips
AN/ZZZ-103		tape recorder	Cyberdyne

- - something like that. ВоенТех (talk) 10:57, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ВоенТех: I really like the idea of a table, I was thinking the same thing. But it would take a hurculean amount of work to accomplish it... This single page could take us weeks to get finished. I'm willing to go through and remove the red-links, if you want to work on the table. Is that a fair deal? I'd recommend a different table for each letter of the alphabet to make it easier later for updating. TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 16:51, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So be it. ВоенТех (talk) 10:50, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ВоенТех: Okay, I've stopped completely here. I want to say "Houston, we have a problem". I've discovered this list is badly out of alphabetical order. I don't know of an easy way to fix it. If I export the entire list in the "A" listing to a spreadsheet for editing and reordering, I will probably lose many of the "links" to articles. Can you think of an easy way around this problem? --TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 05:08, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are several things which come to mind

The first one is to split the list into subpages (List of military electronics of the United States/A, List of military electronics of the United States/B, and so on,) leaving this one as a rootpage with a navigation header. Then we would deal with each letter separately, which I think is more convenient.
Another way to remedy the problem is to add sorting options to the table. We would not be bothered by the fact that some entries, which are already there, or new entries are out of alphabetical order, because the table itself would sort them automatically upon a click.

ВоенТех (talk) 10:07, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of entries

I've been working offline to turn this list into a tabled list. Something I've noticed is the enormous number of entries with no hint mentioned of usage, development or manufacture and also do not link to any article. The entry might be something like AN/ARC-1 with absolutely no information. If I don't get any objections with rationale, I'm going to delete those entries as "not notable" enough to be on this list. Otherwise, we would need to list every combination from AN/ARC-1 to the last possible AN/ARC-999, and that just doesn't make sense… Any objections? — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 06:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure anyone is even watching this page as it seems to be lacking in recent edits. Update: I’ve made huge progress in getting the list table-fied, and I’d like to invite public comment before I make sweeping change to the current list. If you’d like to chime in on my work, please take a look here. Be sure to leave a comment with a “yay” or “nay” to the format. Thanks in advance. — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 04:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AN/ALR-2002

@Decooldude:, hi... I noticed you added an entry for the AN/ALR-2002 RWR which was developed in Australia for Australian military aircraft. Unfortunately, the title of this List of military electronics of the United States is very specifically aimed at "electronics of the United States". I don't mean to be a stickler, but although it carries the AN/ designation, it seems the ALR-2002 doesn't really belong on this list. Thoughts or justifications for leaving it on this list? — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 11:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi, i thought i removed it because it is an Australian RWR? Decooldude (talk) 23:12, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thank you very much. I've been working hard offline for a few weeks to improve the page. I've come a long way, but there is so much more to do before I can publish it. It almost feels like I've bitten off more than I can chew. If you (or anyone else) is interested, take a look at User:TadgStirkland401/Draft Replacement for List of military electronics of the United States… Comments or even a helping hand are much more than welcome. I'm focused now on finding sources to cite for as many entries as I can. Thanks again. — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 00:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! I think what you're doing is really impressive, good work mate. Glancing through it, the only things that seem to need working on are just putting the company in for types with a page. But, I will have a thorough look at a later time. Decooldude (talk) 04:39, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AN/VRC-46

@Jim92065, I noticed you added the AN/VRC-46 to the list. But you did not add anything like a description, uses or manufacturers. Do you have a good link or two that someone could use to flesh out the entry a little more? — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 00:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jim92065, I found the AN/VRC-46 listed as part of the AN/VRC-12 article and created a redirect for it. I also found a different citable source than the ones used on the VRC-12 page. I'm just about done with as much as I want to do for the moment on restructuring the page. Please take a look here at what I've done and let me know what you think. I'll probably make all the changes to this article by the weekend, and I'd love to get some feedback. — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 23:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restructured (table-ized)

Alright, I've finished with my modification to table-ize this (List of military electronics of the United States) to this (click here). If someone doesn't oppose the change in the next few days, I'll move those changes to the list you all see in the main namespace. This is still just a suggestion. — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 21:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 18:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fairey Gannet

@Miner4472, the Fairey Gannet you added to the APS-20 entry is a Royal Air Force aircraft. This list is supposed to be limited to electronics of the United States. Can you revert that edit? — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 23:12, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Miner4472, thank you for reverting. If we added all operators of each piece of equipment, this list would very quickly become way out of hand. — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 00:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah - damn right with that. Too much on the page already lol. Miner4472 (talk) 00:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good point about the length. I’ve considered splitting the list for easier editing, but I’m worried of the affect on readability. You’ve added tons of entries. What are your thoughts on splitting it up a bit? — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 03:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]