Talk:AITO M5

On 6 April 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Huawei AITO M5 to AITO M5. The result of the discussion was moved.

On 12 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Aito M5. The result of the discussion was not moved.

On 2 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Aito M5. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 6 April 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 13:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Huawei AITO M5 → AITO M5 – All AITO stores were ordered to remove all promotional materials related to Huawei on April 1 by Yu Chengdong, CEO of Huawei Terminal BG and CEO of Smart Car Solution BU, thus all AITO products cannot be promoted as 'Huawei AITO' products.^[1] DDDDBoy (talk) 01:32, 6 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 02:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Since this has been moved around before. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 02:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ping previous movers Jengtingchen (who moved this to Aito M5) and Infinty 0 (who moved this to Huawei AITO M5.) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 03:05, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree move to AITO M5. Huawei has already re-announced by the end of March that Huawei will not engage in producing vehicle directly and AITO shall not use the "Huawei" name. Infinty 0 (talk) 03:47, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "问界门店员工：已接到通知，不让叫华为问界了" (in Chinese). news.sina.com.cn. 1 April 2023. Retrieved 5 April 2023.

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Requested move 12 September 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Upon discovery that AITO is an acronym/initialism, which are generally capitalized. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:09, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AITO M5 → Aito M5 – "Aito M5" sounds better than "AITO M5", most of the brands have been stylized into all uppercases and lowercases, like Nio (NIO), Ora (ORA) etc. Guyrichtheman (talk) 08:01, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. AITO is very different from Ora, it is an acronym like the BMW. In Chinese media or by Seres/Huawei's promotional material, the brand is always marketing as AITO rather than Aito. Infinty 0 (talk) 11:47, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Check Huawei's official website. Guyrichtheman (talk) 12:36, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Even it's an acronym, people called it as "Aito", not "A.I.T.O.". Guyrichtheman (talk) 12:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is very likely a technical mistake because in AITO brand official website , this never happened.

Even today, on the news release of new 2023 M7, you can still see the "AITO" brand name.[1]

On the Weibo of Yu Chendong, the CEO of Huawei Terminal BG and CEO of Smart Car Solution BU, he always spelled it as "AITO"[1] Infinty 0 (talk) 14:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So, did he pronounce "A.I.T.O." or just "Aito"? Guyrichtheman (talk) 22:47, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's never a technical mistake, everyone can put either "AITO" or "Aito" names into their websites. Guyrichtheman (talk) 14:07, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note that under MOS:TM, whether it is pronounced as a word initialism is not the relevant point for titling purposes: NASA, NATO, GEICO, etc. are capitalized regardless of pronunciation because they are initialism/acronyms. Dekimasuよ! 13:15, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 2 November 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans (talk) 16:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AITO M5 → Aito M5 – MOS:TMRULES: "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official"". Andra Febrian (talk) 03:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Polyamorph (talk) 05:45, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Additional note: the name is capitalized only in Chinese/Mandarin use (such as official website https://aito.auto/). Same goes to "Pro" and "Plus" suffixes are always capitalized in Chinese/Mandarin use. In the global website the spelling is "Aito" https://www.huawei.com/ie/media-center/multimedia/photos/products/aito-m5. Andra Febrian (talk) 06:42, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The request has been discussed before. AITO is an initialism/acronym like the BMW. It stands for "Adding Intelligence To Auto" just like BMW stands for "Bayerische Motoren Werke" . This is especially mentioned on the front page of AITO official website.[2]

The example you raised with the Huawei website is very likely a technical mistake and isolated example. In AITO brand official website or Seres/Huawei's promotional material or any other major media, we seldom see Aito rather than AITO.

Even on the consumer's agreement with strict legal definition, they use AITO.[3] e.g. 《AITO 汽车认购协议-AITO 问界 M7 服务基础权益说明》literaly translate as ("AITO Subscription Agreement-AITO M7 Service Basic Rights and Interests Description").

And as a native Chinese speaker, I'm not aware of what you mentioned about the misuse of capitalization within the Chinese community. And I'm pretty sure most Chinese refer the brand as AITO and it becomes a common sense. We know the difference between uppercase and lowercase letters in English. Infinty 0 (talk) 09:53, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "问界门店员工：已接到通知，不让叫华为问界了" (in Chinese). news.sina.com.cn. 1 April 2023. Retrieved 5 April 2023.

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