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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 13:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

8701 (album) → 8701 — Already redirects here. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 12:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Support. Only article on Wikipedia titled "8701". Jenks24 (talk) 14:22, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge

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The result of this discussion was to merge Rayman⁹⁵ ^(talk) 16:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think Evolution 8701 Tour should be merged into 8701 because the tour itself wasn't that big, evident with the article itself, as it was only in North America. It can be merged without making the new article bloated, as 8701's article isn't that big either. The tour was in support of the album anyway. Rayman⁹⁵ ^(talk) 23:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Similar to Here I Stand (Usher album), but those tour dates and set list will need to be cited. Dan56 (talk) 23:20, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Per reason and first support comments. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 01:10, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - the page for the tour alone is not necessary as the information doesn't really go beyond the dates and setlist. I suspect it will be near impossible to source the setlist and exact dates so you may end up with just a paragraph about the tour instead. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 23:17, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can source the dates with this link, and the opening acts with this link—both published by MTV—but not the setlist. It'll probably end up being a paragraph, with opening acts and dates. Rayman⁹⁵ ^(talk) 00:10, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per comments above. — Tomica (talk) 00:11, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, in support of merging all his tours into one article—List of Usher concert tours—, like List of Kelly Clarkson concert tours. All his tours appear to not be that notable or just lack in people willing to work on them. Statυs (talk) 02:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Bruce Campbell (talk · contribs) 00:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be reviewing this article. Bruce Campbell (talk) 00:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Background

* The first sentence is a little awkward and seems like it flow better split up. -> "Usher had initially planned to release the album entitled All About U, as his third studio album on October 31, 2000, following My Way (1997) which to date, has sold over seven million copies." -> Try something like "Usher had initially planned to release the album entitled All About U, as his third studio album on October 31, 2000. The album was to follow his successful My Way (1997) which to date, has sold over seven million copies."

Done Changed sentence to your suggestion.

* Though multiple tracks from the album had leaked on to online music store Napster several months prior to its release, on March 13, 2000; the leaked songs include "T.T.P.", "U R the One" and "Pop Ya Collar" -> "On March 13, 2000, multiple tracks from the album had leaked on to online music store Napster several months prior to its release, including "T.T.P.", "U R the One" and "Pop Ya Collar" would be a better way to phrase it

Done Changed sentence to your suggestion.

* Wikilink Janet Jackson and MTV Icon

Done Wikilinked.

* "Usher explained the he returned to the studios to record new songs "I didn't want that to be the way my..." should be changed to -> "Usher explained the he returned to the studios to record new songs, stating "I didn't want that to be the way my..."

Done Changed sentence to your suggestion.

* Why [new] and not just new?

Done Removed the brackets, don't really know why they're there.

Recording

* "Jam commented that "[His] mom said: "Oh my God, Usher's got this track and we thought you guys would be perfect to produce it"" -> According to Jam, his mother had said "Oh my God, Usher's got this track and we thought you guys would be perfect to produce it"

Done Changed sentence to your suggestion.

* Not to nitpick; but uncapatilize the "We" towards the end

Done Sure, uncapatilized.

Composition

* About the first sentence, is his "soul"? A little awkward. I would suggest either that the album lyrically "represents" his soul or was written from his soul.

Done Yeah that is kinda awkward, replaced with "represents".

* Put a ";" after heartache to denounce when he is speaking.

Done Placed semi-colon.

* Some of the references are placed a little awkwardly, for example following a semi-colon is a reference. In particular, "U Don't Have to Call" is a hip-hop song[9] inspired by Jackson,[7] while "U Got It Bad" is an R&B slow-jam;[10] Kyle Anderson of MTV wrote that it makes use of the acoustic guitar and a "slow-burning bassline" throughout.[10] -> Should be more like "U Don't Have to Call" is a hip-hop song inspired by Jackson, while "U Got It Bad" is an R&B slow-jam. [7][9][10] About "U Got it Bad", Kyle Anderson of MTV wrote that it makes use of the acoustic guitar and a "slow-burning bassline" throughout.[10]

Done Moved references and altered text.

Tour

* I looked through the article's history and I'm aware that a merger recently took place, combining the information from the album's tour page into this one. That being said, the tour section in the current article is one paragraph long, and is followed by rather large graph. Considering the length of the graph and the fact that the article doesn't really go into intricate detail about the tour, I would suggest removing it, since the entirety of the information can be found from reference 35 anyway. Either that, or use { hidden }. Whatever is fine with the editor, just a suggestion to reduce the size.

Done Collapsed the table.

Reception

* Un wiki-link Michael Jackson since it's linked elsewhere. Also, unlink Janet Jackson.

Done Un wikilinked.

Overall the article is in quality condition and once these concerns are addressed, the article will be passed. Bruce Campbell (talk) 01:06, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, I think everything's done. Rayman⁹⁵ ^(talk) 13:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Passed then. Bruce Campbell (talk) 23:10, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The release date is wrong

The release date for the album is August 7, 2001, hence the title 8701, It's pretty obvious, so I don't know where July 1, 2001 came from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dodge1991 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Like the rest of the infobox, it is based on what is sourced in the article. In this case, the #Release history section. Read the article. Dan56 (talk) 14:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Y A relatively complete infobox
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Y A lead section giving an overview of the album

At least one section of informative prose other than lead
A track listing, containing track lengths & composers
A list of personnel (band members, guest musicians and technical)

Categorisation at least by artist and year

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