Talk:808 Mafia

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References about the members

Since another user claims the references for group members aren't notable, here I'll defend my point of view:

1. Interview with Vice (magazine), which is a notable source. The founder Southside describes the 7 group members and concludes: "that's all", which means these were the original members at the time.

2. Review by Pitchfork Media, which is also a notable source. Bobby Beats is also states as group member.

3. Mixtape trailer, posted on the official 808 Mafia YouTube channel. OG Taxx and Chris Fresh are noted as group members, they also appear on the group’s official mixtape. As per WP:SELFSOURCE "Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves."

4. Fuse has produced 2 tracks on "808 Mafia II", which is their official mixtape. Also Fuse and Tre Pounds are credited as (of 808 Mafia) on other mixtapes, such as this. The tape is tagged as Official by Wooh Da Kid, who is an artist on their label.

2Flows (talk) 23:08, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All the members referenced by Pitchfork and Vice are in the article unless I am mistaken? As are the sources. What is the source for OG Taxx and Chris Fresh as members? I see none. Fuse and Tre Pounds are both still in the article, so I do not understand what are you trying to get across? The only other producers removed were Ruga Beats and KayO Redd, as they were not backed by any reliable source. Keep in mind any source must clearly state them as members of the group. STATic message me! 23:16, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just watch the trailer, which is in the refs below [1]. Halfway through on the screen you can see Chris Fresh (808 Mafia) and OG Taxx (808 Mafia). Even if you ignore the fact that they produced songs on the group's official mixtape, the video is a reliable source on it own, since it's published by the group itself. (as i stated WP:SELFSOURCE) 2Flows (talk) 23:27, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is a perfectly good source so I will readd them to the lead and infobox right now. If its the groups official Youtube, Twitter etc. they are proper to use as references. So did you have a source for Ruga Beats and KayO Redd? The source you just provided just proved, that they are not apart of the group. STATic message me! 00:42, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The source I have on them is the mixtape tracklist for YNS2. Tagged as Official on DatPiff by KayO Redd, who is an artist on their label. Also there's a tweet by Southside mentioning Ruga Beats from 2011 [2]. 2Flows (talk) 01:08, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay and? This article is about the production team not them and all their friends in KayO Redd case. Nowhere in the source does it say he is a member of the production team. In Ruga's case he might have been a former member unless there is a recent source tying him to the group. STATic message me! 02:03, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TM88 is still in 808 Mafia. he was never not a part of it, he just started to do his own thing more. He signed with Juicy J recently, you can check that information via TM88's Instagram; @8TM88. Although he signed with Juicy J, he still openly represents 808 Mafia.

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Please change "The group also includes producers TM88, DY, Fuse, Tre Pounds, Gezin, Tarentino, MP808, and Max Lord." to "The group also includes producers TM88, DY, Fuse, Tre Pounds, Gezin, Tarentino, MP808, NonstopDaHitman, YK, Swede and Max Lord." 2601:580:8301:7C0:FCDD:8B78:3A82:ECE3 (talk) 22:13, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have reliable sources?
— Berean Hunter (talk) 23:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have reliable sources I can link to.

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rock beats Rockbeats57 (talk) 20:15, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Southside (record producer) with 808 Mafia

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Not consensus after unanimity against the merge on this article. Andre Farfan (talk) 01:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Besides two poorly referenced mixtapes there is no indication how this ensemble has any further notability besides the members. Also appears that is currently is dormant. Karst (talk) 08:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently 808 Mafia is one of the most sought after Hip-Hop production company's, this page should not be merged as 808 Mafia is not dormant at all with a steady stream of charting releases. The members are actual notable producers it would be better to build out. their sub pages or list the discography of the production company. DrmGrl6 (talk) 21:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose since this is a multi-member collective, it doesn't appear that simply moving it into one of the three principle founders would be the way to handle this stub. The topic does appear to be probably notable through a cursory independent research, however this article itself suffers from being little more than self-promotion stub, with very little indication as to why their notable in the article itself. TiggerJay (talk) 15:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - this collective includes some very prominent and commercially successful members so is inherently noteworthy. Granted, there are probably opportunities to expand this article but for now the details on this page such as its full membership and history are serving a purpose as they wouldn't be appropriate on the individual pages of each member. --GrimeSpecialist (talk) 11:55, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.