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Short Comings of this cartridge

Wasn't the main complaint about this cartridge that it was extremely under powered? There is no section in this article about that. Though it does state that it was based on the US .30 Pedersen cartridge (or .30-18 Automatic), though in the article for the latter (.30 Pedersen)does mention the under powered short comings of that cartridge. Zeelog — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.164.37.128 (talk) 14:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's a difference between a cartridge being underpowered when you're asking someone to lug around a full-sized rifle that fires pistol ammunition versus a cartridge simply being underpowered in an absolute sense. That having been said, I've no idea whether or not this round is considered to be underpowered or not. The only complaint I've heard about it was in regards to the French predilection for odd or "unique" calibers or cartridges that no one else used (in stark contrast to 9mm parabellum, for example). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.77.135 (talk) 03:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Its parent cartridge, 7.65mm Browning aka .32 ACP, was considered a good defensive pistol caliber in handguns like the Browning, Beretta, Colt and Walther, which were used as sidearms by military and police groups and many civilians. With a 3mm longer case, heavier bullet and higher velocity, 7.65x20mm Longue was a bit better as a pistol round than .32 ACP. It was "extremely under powered" when used in the US M1903 rifle with Pedersen device and compared to combat rifles or 9mm Parabellum machine pistols. The French military used the round in handguns and a compact submachine gun were it was adequate for defense. It was "extremely under powered" compared to rifle rounds. -- Naaman Brown (talk) 17:27, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It has about the same power as a 9 mm makarov - so it's not a powerhouse, but it's not anemic as far as pistol cartridges go.Observer31 (talk) 04:32, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]