Talk:5-Methoxymethylone

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No worries, I'm aware that technically there is no "exemption" for safety, but whether it's a personal agenda that makes one insensitive to "illicit drug-user safety" or some other reason, even simple neutrality, I can think of NUMEROUS times when that precise topic SHOULD have been the primary concern. Just because a life has no value to you or anyone else, that does not make it valueless. Either Wikipedia exists to educate the populace for it's own betterment or it doesn't.. the notability standard should, imo, be altered to allow for emerging threats of ALL kinds to be detailed in its contents. The fact that there is no allowance for that severely limits Wikipedia's usefulness at a time when it *could* be quite useful. But alas I'm not the one calling the shots.. I just know that this site in particular is used as a first reference for lots of people, and it contains many drugs and details about drugs in its pages already. Furthermore, anything very new will by default lack notability and be void of heaps of qualified references by Wikipedia's standards as I understand them.. but it's the new and unknown that can be most treacherous sometimes. Thank you for your time reviewing this page!

@Wikiisawesome: Yes, but as is the case with most emerging substances almost all data is in forums reported by illicit users. The notability of new compounds that will be ingested by humans *should* be justified simply in the interest of safety (as was described in the notes of the opriginal submission). Safety via knowledge and awareness etc.. The Chinese gov't just enacted a ban on almost all of the research compounds they have been providing to the world for years now, this is one of few exceptions which almost guarantees it will be more prevalent now. Also, 2-A1MP, while the most common name, is apparently unrelated to it's structure (no doubt for clandestine purposes). A structure-based name is 5-methoxy-methylone, a currently unscheduled substance (hence why it isn't in the DEA site) but may be considered an analog of MDMA. I linked to that DEA document so that it can be seen that it is NOT included in the list in any of it's names/forms

I have added reference to Google searches for both 2-A1MP and 5-Methoxy-Methylone which shows it is commonplace even now.^[1]^[2]

My issue with Wikipedia's standards for "notability" in this case is this: How many people need to OD or possibly die from emerging substances before they are deemed "notable"? Seems a really good question from my view.. Not that I would expect safety and caring for humans in general from any Wiki, Wikipedia is probably the first place people would look for info on this if they need it, for example to help medical personnel deal with OD/allergy situations etc. It is my hope that once this article exists (regardless of author) others will begin filling in blanks as more is discovered

^ "Google Search for 2-A1MP". October 19, 2015. Retrieved October 19, 2015.
^ "Google Search for 5-methoxy methyone, which is the same molecule as that sold as 2-aimp/2-a1mp". October 19, 2015. Retrieved October 19, 2015.

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[1] "Google Search for 2-A1MP". October 19, 2015. Retrieved October 19, 2015.

[2] "Google Search for 5-methoxy methyone, which is the same molecule as that sold as 2-aimp/2-a1mp". October 19, 2015. Retrieved October 19, 2015.

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