Talk:39th Golden Raspberry Awards

Box office performance of nominated films

The article contained a table full of unsourced figures, which I have removed.[1]

I notice that the articles for the Academy Awards include a section titled "Box office performance of nominated films" which is similar but it is not a table, it is a short WP:PROSE section that explains in words the box office performance of some of the nominated films, and essentially explains that that critically acclaimed films are not necessarily commercially successful films, and sometimes that an Academy Award nomination (or win) results in a box office bump. Information is explained, readers are not left with a data dump and dubious calculations to interpret for themselves.

Even if the table from this article was properly sourced, it is not entirely clear how the table is relevant to this Awards ceremony or what purpose the table is supposed to serve. The Golden Raspberry awards include a mix films, some are commercially successful and bad and others are bad and unsuccessful. Unlike the Oscars a Golden Raspberry nomination does not seem to have any effect on the box office gross of a film.

The table is fundamentally offtopic for this article. Secondly the table goes further offtopic by making dubious calculations about the supposed "Net profit" of a film based on unreliable budget figures and the large assumption that deducting the budget from the box office gross results is in itself in a meaningful figure. (This fails to take seriously how inconsistent and unreliable budget figures can be. It utterly fails to take into account other costs such as marketing and distribution. Then there's Hollywood Accounting. Most films haven't made a profit until they've more than double their production budget.)

If anyone wants to argue that the table is somehow relevant in the article, please discuss, but if you want to add it back to the article it still at least needs to be properly sourced. -- 109.79.68.156 (talk) 14:27, 12 December 2020 (UTC)