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A consensus has been reached to include candidates in the infoboxes of state subpages who are polling at an average of at least 5% in a state or are the nominees of parties whose candidates received 5% in a state in the last election: Talk:2020 United States presidential election/Archive 12#Individual state pages. This consensus is an extension of the RfC that developed the same criteria for inclusion in the national infobox: Talk:2020 United States presidential election/Archive 12#Rfc on inclusion for the infobox.

Biden hasn't won Georgia quite yet.

Until the recounts/lawsuits are settled. I think that it should be left undecided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guitarguy2323 (talk) 20:15, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Guitarguy2323: It doesn't work like that. The moment that there's consensus among reliable sources that Biden's won, we are obligated to state such. Cpotisch (talk) 20:19, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cpotisch: The main 2020 United States presidential election page hasn't shaded it blue because a "consensus has not been reached yet". NateNate60 (talk) 05:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The media doesn’t just randomly call states on a whim. Georgia was called for Biden when Biden’s lead exceeded the number of ballots remaining to be counted in the state. Universalist2020 (talk) 03:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The standard is a consensus of all media outlets, not just one. If that has happened, then go ahead and change it, but to my knowledge, it has not. NateNate60 (talk) 05:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The consensus is to wait until all media outlets have called a state. See Talk:2020 United States presidential election#RfC: What sources should be used for calling states?. A winner should not be declared on this page until Georgia is colored in on the map at 2020 United States presidential election. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 04:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Spiffy sperry: I put in a request for semi-protection at WP:RPP. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 05:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A second recount?

per the unwarrented and nasty restrictions put on me, I reverted a revert where I couldn't put up a reference. The reference is up. Albiet naked until the thing is official around noon. Yeah, Trump is nasty enough to demand a SECOND recount. Arglebargle79 (talk) 14:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Turnout number must be wrong

How can turnout in 2020 only be 66% (and show it going down), when over 4.8 million votes are being cast - and in 2016 turnout was shown as 76%, despite only 3.8 million votes being cast (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Georgia)? --Nordostsüdwest (talk) 10:31, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was just about to point this out as well. Where is the source? From simple maths nearly a million voted were added compared to the previous election so the turnout most definitely increased this year. Again, there is no source to back up the 66% turnout figure. Nice Stranger5810 (talk) 13:26, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Turnout in the 2020 election was actually 69.10% and it's because there were 7,233,584 total active registered voters in GA this year ^[1], compared to 5,443,046 as of the 2016 General Election ^[2]. 4,998,482 total votes cast in 2020 / 7,233,584 active registered voters = 69.10% turnout this election. In 2016 it was 4,165,405 votes cast^[3] / 5,443,046 active registered voters = 76.53%. Note that in GA there are total (active+inactive) registered voters and active registered voters. I base these calculations on the active voter registration totals. If you calculate for active+inactive the turnout percentages in 2016 and 2020 are more comparable. Zaneabbott5 (talk) 00:01, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't turnout be based on total eligible population, instead of registered voters? I think that is how it's handled in other articles. Nordostsüdwest (talk) 23:37, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a better linke for turnout: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/turnout-map-2020-election-n1249620 It was only 61.6%, but it was also up from 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.92.25 (talk) 17:07, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

Comparison to 1964 Election Needs Clarification

"Biden also became the first Democrat to win the White House without carrying Baker, Burke, Dooly, Peach, Quitman, or Twiggs Counties since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964." Lyndon Johnson did not win Georgia in 1964. Barry Goldwater won that year.Alexander Springstea (talk) 18:00, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2020

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Regarding the section "Electors", it appears that the recount did proceed in Biden's favor. Georgia has been certified for Biden by Raffensperger and Kemp awarded the electoral votes to Biden. Sources: [1], [2], and [3]. I request that this information is added to the "Electors" section. 2603:6010:D400:1C41:4502:F8B3:6A9B:9FE3 (talk) 18:48, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. It appears this information was already added to that section, but I rearranged it and removed the phrase "should the recount proceed in his favor". --Spiffy sperry (talk) 21:02, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mismatch of numbers in results

The section after Results says: "The final statewide result from the completed audit is Biden with 2,475,141 votes and Trump with 2,462,857 votes, a spread of 12,284 votes. The result before the audit had been Biden with 2,473,383 votes and Trump with 2,459,825."

However, the table in the Results section matches neither of these sets of numbers. I'm not sure which numbers are correct, but we should endeavor to eliminate the conflict within the article itself.Nosecohn (talk) 23:29, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update county results to match recount

Given the scrutiny on this election, someone who has edit access should update the county table to reflect the final recounted results here. Click on the "detail" files on the right to get the county breakdown. Currently the table isn't self-consistent with the candidate statewide totals not reflecting the data above them; nor is the statewide margin correct (should be 11,779). Thanks! Aaronbs (talk) 14:15, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trump–Raffensperger phone call/scandal

I'm surprised there is no mention of the criminal investigation into Trump following the Trump–Raffensperger phone call. I would've thought that would be significant enough to add under the General election > Disputes section. Feudonym (talk) 06:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

VoterGA is not a reliable source

Here’s how Georgia Public Broadcasting described the group, "The primary plaintiff is Garland Favorito of the group VoterGA, who has fought against Georgia’s elections infrastructure for more than a decade, including a failed lawsuit against Georgia’s old direct-recording electronic machines. Favorito has also questioned the authenticity of events surrounding 9/11, pushed conspiracy theories about former President Bill Clinton and the assassination of John F. Kennedy and is now serving as the latest vessel for false claims of fraud with the 2020 election." Unless a reliable source publishes irregularities, this remains a conspiracy theory. Ifnord (talk) 03:18, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/georgia_easy_voter_registration_options_break_new_records

[2] ttps://sos.ga.gov/admin/files/Voter%20Registration%20Statistics%20Historical%20-%20Updated%2011-26-18.pdf

[3] ttps://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/63991/184321/en/summary.html

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