Talk:2020 Summer Olympic pictograms

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Lead image position

@東京オリンピック１９６４: I'm not sure why you undid this edit by Hammersoft since you didn't leave an edit summary. Was there something you didn't understand about edit aummary left by Hammersoft? It can be quite helpful to leave edit summaries when you edit (even what might seem like an obvious case) to help others better understand why you did what you did.

Anyway, the lead image of an article should generally come before a navigation template like {{2020 Summer Olympics}} per the guidance given in WP:ORDER. In many cases the lead image would be part of an MOS:INFOBOX and this would probably be a little more self-evident. Not every article, however, requires and infobox and this appears to be one such case. So, in lieu of an infobox, the image would be the next thing to appear at the top of the page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:53, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In-article instructions about images and navpops

@東京オリンピック１９６４: This is not a reference and it shouldn't be formatted as such. It's possible that this could be an explanatory note, but it doesn't really seem necessary and in-article instructions about images are pretty much never considered acceptable per MOS:SEEIMAGE; moreover, the "hovering" you're describing is an optional setting of an editor's user preferencess called navigation pop ups and it only will work for those editors who have decided to use that feature. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:38, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@東京オリンピック１９６４: This has nothing to do with the Taliban, but everything to do with how Wikipedia defines citations and Wikipedia's Manual of Style. You're a fairly new editor and probably aren't too familiar with such things and that's OK; however, you need to be very careful about the comments you make about other editors (even in your edit summaries) because they could be seen as a personal attack. You also need to be very careful about edit warring and the three-revert rule, both of which you quite close to doing at the moment. You simply don't keep reverting another editor who makes a change and who also leaves an edit summary clearly explaining why in terms of relevant Wikipedia policies or guidelines just because you don't like or understand the edit. Doing such a thing is one of the fastest ways to have your account blocked by an administrator. I've explained above why the edit you're trying to make is not considered acceptable and I'm happy to further clarify this if you have any questions. So, if you have questions, ask then here on this talk page and don't try to carry on a discussion via edit summaries as explained in WP:REVTALK.

Another thing that you should be careful about is labeling all of your edits as "minor edits". Wikipedia defines a minor edit in a specific way and you're recent edits to this article aren't ones typically considered to be minor. This is a mistake that many new editors make and usually in and of itself isn't too big a deal; however, it's something you should be careful of and try and avoid in the future. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:09, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@東京オリンピック１９６４: I concur with Marchjuly's actions and have reverted your most recent edit to undo their removal of this note. You now have two editors acting against your attempt to force this into the article. Continuing to attempt to force this into the article, most especially without making any effort to engage in conversation, is not the way forward. We work here through collegial editing. If you're not willing to do that, you're in the wrong place. Please, engage in conversation. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Olympic: "singular" or "plural"?

Recently, 東京オリンピック１９６４ has moved the article from the "plural" title (2020 Summer Olympics pictograms) to the "singular" one (2020 Summer Olympic pictograms). However, the categories (Category:2020 Summer Olympics pictograms, Category:2016 Summer Olympics pictograms, etc.) clearly use the "plural" title. So, should the article be moved back to the "plural" title, or should the subcategories of Category:Olympic Games pictograms be renamed to use the "singular" titles? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 13:53, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Plural. We don't have 2020 Summer Olympic, but do have 2020 Summer Olympics. I don't see a reason for this to break with that terminology. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:10, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Plural probably better. Their official names seems to be something like "Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 Sport Pictograms " or "Tokyo 2020 sport pictograms" or "... event pictograms ..." from the various sources. But I'd be happy with the original, plural, version, as clear and consistent with the other articles. PamD 14:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why the word "Olympic" in "Category: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Pictogram" is plural, but at least in Tokyo 2020 terms, the word when the authorities TOCOG announced the pictogram was the singular "Olympic". Is represented by connecting the plural "Pictogram". Therefore, the title of the article must also match the terminology of the authorities. thank you very much. 東京オリンピック１９６４　21:06, 25 August 2021 (UTC)