Talk:2020 Republican National Convention/Archive 1

Archive 1

covid-19 and the possible cancellation of the convention

There has been talk about the cancellation of the two conventions. A video "dry run" for the GOP's in two weeks has been replaced by a conference call, and the modeling is showing that the Covid 19 pandemic will still be going on to some extent in the summer. Arglebargle79 (talk) 11:37, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Will be moved to another state

Breaking: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267985991408799745 129.246.254.12 (talk) 01:09, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Main convention logo

I don't think we should use the logo until its changed to jacksonville.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aricmfergie (talk • contribs) 01:40, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Is Charlotte to be considered a co-location

Since some convention business is contractually to remain in Charlotte, should we name Charlotte as a co-host or co-location? SecretName101 (talk) 01:50, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I support this. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 02:49, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

They are calling it co-host cities now, so I support this. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:46, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Portraits of presumptive nominees in infobox

I have tentatively added oval-shaped portraits of the presumptive nominees to the infobox, similar to how previous convention articles have the nominees presented. However, I am open to discussion as to whether I should have held-off until they were formally nominated.

Also, if anyone wants to undertake the task of creating similar oval portraits using more current images (currently we are using the same oval-portraits as 2016), that would be terrific. I suggest using the formal portraits of Trump and Pence as the source images though (this for Trump and this for Pence). SecretName101 (talk) 23:10, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. GoodDay (talk) 00:05, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I added them Nojus R (talk) 06:18, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

While @Nojus R:'s images are an improvement, ideally the oval images would be an identical oval shape to those used for previous conventions. But those Nojus R created will work very well as placeholders until we have that, and are much appreciated. SecretName101 (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Looks like the person to create the identical ovals was me. Nojus R (talk) 02:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Nojus R: thank you SecretName101 (talk) 21:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Of Black Swans

Covid-19 is a Black Swan Event, and that means that we're going to have to figure out how to redo this entire article. I'm not sure how to do it. Several presidents accepted their nominations in larger venues in the same city as the convention over the years, but the last time a nominee has accepted in a different city was FDR in 1944. We're going to have to figure out how to remake this and fast...any suggestions?Arglebargle79 (talk) 23:59, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

We do not need to do anything fast because there is no deadline. There is also no need to redo the entire article. We can wait until the convention happens, then describe what happened as reported in reliable sources. It sounds pretty simple to me. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 14:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Notable speakers

At DNC 2020 page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_National_Convention, over a dozen people are listed as "Notable speakers". But RNC 2020 page only list Trump's immediate family + Pence. Is this actual fact or is this biased editing that all speakers in RNC are not notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.19.145 (talk) 22:02, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

This comment refers to the listing in the infobox of each page. The DNC event has happened, so the speakers are known. The RNC event has not yet happened, and editors are actively updating this page as details are being released. If you feel a certain speaker should be added to the infobox, then be bold and add the name. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 23:58, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Exactly why was Nicholas Sandmann removed? he and those two people who pointed guns at the protesters were actually on the official speakers' list.Arglebargle79 (talk) 10:42, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

A note on Presidential acceptance speeches.

Tradition has it that the front runner stays away from the Convention. A committee would then be formed to inform the nominees they were nominated. This was famously botched in 1848 when they mailed it postage due to Zachary Taylor and he refused to pay it. I'm not sure whether or not Teddy Roosevelt accepted in person for the VP nomination in 1900, but the first notable nominee's speech was in 1924, when GOP Vice-Presidential nominee, Frank Lowden went up to the podium to REFUSE the nod. That would be unthinkable today.

FDR was the first to show up to accept in 1932. He did so again in 1936 but not in 1940 or '44. Wilkie made a short speech accepting in 1940 and did it again a few weeks later. Dewey showed up in 1944, both did in 1948. JFK and Obama both accepted in nearby venues with all the delegates present. Due to a scheduling foul-up, John Edwards accepted the 2004 VP nomination in writing. The Convention that year was badly managed. Arglebargle79 (talk) 20:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Someone doesn't believe me about ol Vend′l Villkie. Well, if you go here and scroll to page one fifty you can read a description. Arglebargle79 (talk) 17:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Pretty sure Edwards accepted in person in 2004. He delivered this speech SecretName101 (talk) 03:07, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

No one doubts he made the speech. But that was on the third day, and he wasn't nominated until the fourth. I was there at the time and asked about it. Arglebargle79 (talk) 10:44, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Is this the official logo?

It says "RNC Convention", that is, Republican National Convention Convention. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 17:42, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

The "C" is for Committee. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 17:47, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Oohhh my bad. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 17:51, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Missing speaker

One of the featured speakers is Jason Joyce, a Maine fisherman who serves on the Swan's Island Board of Selectmen. Here is an article about him speaking there:

https://bangordailynews.com/2020/08/23/politics/maine-lobsterman-to-address-gop-convention-as-trump-bets-big-on-iconic-industry/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keep Getting Kicked Off (talk • contribs) 01:21, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Several "controversial" speakers who have been formally announced have been removed from the article. They should be put back on as they may have an impact.Arglebargle79 (talk) 10:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

There's been confusion over some of the lesser known speakers. @Amariokart: John Peterson doesn't appear to be the Pennsylvania politician, but rather the owner and chief executive of Schuette Metals in Rothschild, Wisconsin.[1] @Keep Getting Kicked Off: Debbie Flood is not the Olympic rower that we have an article for, but rather president of Melron Corporation in Schofield. Cris Peterson would seem to be a dairy farmer/children's author.[2] The only speaker who I can't figure out is Megan Pauley. No idea who this is. gobonobo ^{+ c} 21:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Notable speakers

So who will we consider the notable speakers from the first night. We're going to need to wait on media coverage to develop. It seems likely that Maximo Alvarez will be among them, but we'll need to wait to see what coverage he and other speakers receive.SecretName101 (talk) 02:17, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

lopsided coverage

DNC was 9-1130 each night; RNC is 830-11.

in spite of this, NPR is still broadcasting 9-1130. so they're missing 20% of it before it even starts!

no liberal bias here, folks!! lol. 66.30.47.138 (talk) 05:16, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@66.30.47.138: This is not what Wikipedia is for. Wikipedia is not a blog site. Please don't post personal commentary here.SecretName101 (talk) 05:35, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@SecretName101: unless he wants to open a RfC against NPR, but I doubt it.TheKaloo (talk) 02:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

Anyone know how to fix up the infobox so that in the candidates section, it shows:

• Vice presidential nominee
  
• Instead of
  Vice presidential
  nominee

Trump & Pence's names should be more to the right side of the section (see other Republican & Democratic convention infoboxes). GoodDay (talk) 10:48, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Pence Photo

Why is Pence's photo blue when Kamala's was just dark blue? Shouldn't Pence's be dark red? Is there precedent for it being Blue? TheKaloo (talk) 02:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

It is the color scheme for all RNC Convention articles since 1968, and many of the ones before 1968. (I'm not saying it needs to be that way, but that it is.) --Spiffy sperry (talk) 02:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

I've no objections, if we change all the RNCs to red/dark red, as the DNCs goes with blue/dark blue. GoodDay (talk) 12:59, 26 August 2020 (UTC)