Talk:2020–21 United States network television schedule
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Guidelines consensus
[edit]Before the expansion of this article, some decisions about the edition of the previous schedule caught my attention, so I would like to know if there is any explanation based on any consensus or if they are just arbitrary, in order to know if they could/should be corrected or not.
- I don't think it's really neccesary to add the legend "Various programming" for future scheduling, even if the networks still classify it as "TBA". I think that new programming (even repeats/encores) should not be added to the schedule until it is really confirmed by the networks.
- Shows (new episodes and/or repeats/encores) that air less than 3-4 weeks in any timeslot (excluding cancelled shows or burn-offs), should be included in the schedule? They don't provide significant relevance and make the tables too extensive. For example: Mixed-ish(R) aired on Tuesday at 9:30 p.m. since 6/23, but didn't air for three weeks on 7/7, 7/14 and 7/21. After that it might continue to air the repeats weekly.[1] The schedule included the first episode,[2] then included the legend "Various programming" and then returned to the listing of the show. Wouldn't it be better if only included first the "Various programming" legend and then the show, or exclude the "Various programming" at all?
Sorry to ping you, but you seem to contribute the most to this article lately, TheTVExpert, Lonniemitchell22, ApprenticeFan, TheRedDomitor. Also, it would be nice if actual guidelines would be included at WP:TV. MrE (talk) 23:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Firstly, I would like to thank you for including me in this discussion. I agree regarding the "various programming" legend. Adding it to the schedule doesn't particularly achieve anything in terms of adding value to the table. And to be honest, I too noticed ABC's tuesday night various programming blocks yesterday felt that the table was looking a bit too shabby. I understand that this year is an one-off situation...that because of Corona, network's have had to fill in broadcast hours with more encores and specials than usual but 'various programming' is arbitrary, so it doesn't really make sense to overstuff the table with content that isn't providing us with any idea abou the content aired. TheRedDomitor (talk) 02:07, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, and yes, I think it could've been better if the second item had been applied too, to prevent it to look kinda messy and/or too long. That's something that also could improve the visualization of the tables. MrE (talk) 21:40, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
NBC Adjusts Fall 2020 Lineup Due to COVID-19 conditions impacting production of regular programmming
[edit]Hello again, everyone! Earlier today, Deadline shared some additional changes to NBC's primetime lineup that have been necessitated due to ongoing COVID-19 conditions that have impacted production. The article notes that American Ninja Warrior will debut in the Monday slot typically reserved for The Voice, and that will occur on September 7, with The Voice taking that slot back later in 2020 once conditions allow production on that show to resume. And the Canadian medical drama Transplant will begin airing in the traditional slot for New Amsterdam effective September 1. Since I am a relatively new editor to articles about network television schedules, I'm reluctant to be bold in this case and make the edits myself because I'm not sure what the protocol is for that. So I thought I'd post the source and information here and leave it to someone else to make the actual changes, if they are considered acceptable for inclusion here. Thanks. --Jgstokes (talk) 21:49, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- It's kind of a weird situation because September 1 and 7 do not fall within the traditional start of a television season, which is usually mid-late September. Technically they should be added to the 2019–20 article as many summer shows don't usually end until even after those dates but ANW and Transplant will air episodes during the 2020–21 season as well, and are replacements for fall shows until they officially start, so I don't think it hurts to add them here. Heartfox (talk) 03:25, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Footnotes about shows affected by the COVID-19 pandemic
[edit]After noticing some disagreements about the notes for shows that were supposed to air during the previous season, it would be nice to reach a consensus whether they should be included or not. For me, I think the notes should only specify that the returning show did not air during the previous season due to the pandemic. Other information such as production or delays might fit better in the Production section of each show, as the main topic of this article is only about the airtime of each show, and whether they were/were not renewed or cancelled. (If time goes by without an answer or consensus, I might be bold and edit it myself) — MrE (talk) 22:31, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think that would be an acceptable comprise that would deal with the issues I raised in my reverts relating to this matter. Another thing to consider: It is good to note these details on the individual shows for which production has been impacted by COVID-19, but at the same time, there needs to be some acknowledgement on this page, which discusses the scheduling of such shows, on this unique, one-time circumstance. So I'm wondering about the possiblity where, when such notes are included in the pages for the impacted shows, a more general summary of factors impacting each network or each block of priemtime lineup could be noted. I recognize the good faith effocrts of editors that have attempted such changes here. At the same time, I don't think this is a clear-cut scarnio where it should be all-or-nothing either way. I've edited other pages here that summarize content from article branches, so if the bulk of the notes are moved to the individual shows, I feel a general note expanding on the impact of COVID-19 on normal production schedules by either network or timeblock might appropriately deal with the concerns I have. Thoughts? --Jgstokes (talk) 22:55, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- I believe that with a simple "The show was expected to air during the 2019–20 season but was delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic" or something like that would be fine, summarizing all notes talking about the productions of the shows. The exceptions should be Supernatural and the shows brought by other networks like those from The CW or L.A. Finest. I think it's only a matter of summarizing the article, but it'll be fine either way. — MrE (talk) 02:09, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
I have to agree with @Sunshine1191: that the notelist is indeed getting a bit out of hand. I've felt this too for a few days. Fall hasn't even started yet and we've already reached "t", with further changes to the Fall schedule being certain. At this rate there will be a note behind every show, which for a new reader may be unappealing and confusing. The answer for this is simple and @MrE: and @Jgstokes:; you both have already stated it in your replies. "Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic" is the first topic explored on this schedule. Even though ryt now it only contains info abt the upfronts, two more paragraphs can be added to summarise the content stated in Notes, briefly; the first abt the returning shows that were pushed over from 2019-20 and the second abt major changes to the Fall schedule. And then the "Production" section of each series page can explore in detail the effect corona had on the shows return in 2020-21. TheRedDomitor (talk) 01:28, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- I can get on board with that. Thanks. --Jgstokes (talk) 05:33, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me too. Notes can be reserved for Supernatural and acquired programming, and the series that have been pushed over from 2019-20 along with any further changes to the Fall schedule can get a separate, but brief, mention under "Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic", as that is exactly why the schedule has undergone changes. Sunshine1191 (talk) 05:40, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Nice. Let's do it then. So notes from shows that did not air last season should be replaced with something like "The show was expected to air during the 2019–20 season but was delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic", and a summary into the Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic section explaining it should be included (please remember to add sources to the paragraph!). — MrE (talk) 17:17, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me too. Notes can be reserved for Supernatural and acquired programming, and the series that have been pushed over from 2019-20 along with any further changes to the Fall schedule can get a separate, but brief, mention under "Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic", as that is exactly why the schedule has undergone changes. Sunshine1191 (talk) 05:40, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Various Programming
[edit]Fox Saturday
[edit]When announced, its fall lineup consisted on the "Fox Sports Saturday" block, but for now it didn't offer such programming. Currently it's airing the MLB games until today (9/26) from the previous schedule.
The Futon Critic provides the next listings as of today:
- 9/26: Fox Major League Baseball [3]
- 10/3: The Masked Singer (R) & I Can See Your Voice (R) [4][5]
- 10/10: The Masked Singer (R) & I Can See Your Voice (R) [6][7]
- 10/17: The Masked Singer (R) & I Can See Your Voice (R) [8][9]
- 10/24: 2020 World Series [10]
- 10/31: TBA [11]
- 11/7: Premier Boxing Champions [12]
- 11/14 & 11/21: TBA [13]
So, should we include the Masked Singer and I Can See Your Voice repeats as "regular" programming (in case they also air on the TBA dates)? Or the Various programming should be applied on here? — MrE (talk) 01:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
- @MrE: This is a tricky one cuz technically according to the regular programming criteria we introduced a few weeks back, encores need to air for a min of four weeks in order to be notable. But then again this Fall is a unique, slightly messy situation as it is. The way I see it; the MS and ICSYW encores constitute three weeks of confirmed programming (most of Oct), which is basically what we are categorising as Early fall this year for the schedules of most networks all days of the week. So as a special case, the encores can take centre stage as a part of the schedule and as for the rest of the miscellaneous programming, it can be included as a note below the Sat schedule exactly like we did for Fox and ABC last summer. Something like...Fox's Early Fall schedule comprised of a mixture of encore programming and sports specials including PBC Fight Cards, 2020 World Series...u get the gist. That's my suggestion. Cheers! TheRedDomitor (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, that's waht I've done (but was reverted). Also, if they air on the other dates TBA, that would make them "regular". — MrE (talk) 17:58, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
- @MrE: This is a tricky one cuz technically according to the regular programming criteria we introduced a few weeks back, encores need to air for a min of four weeks in order to be notable. But then again this Fall is a unique, slightly messy situation as it is. The way I see it; the MS and ICSYW encores constitute three weeks of confirmed programming (most of Oct), which is basically what we are categorising as Early fall this year for the schedules of most networks all days of the week. So as a special case, the encores can take centre stage as a part of the schedule and as for the rest of the miscellaneous programming, it can be included as a note below the Sat schedule exactly like we did for Fox and ABC last summer. Something like...Fox's Early Fall schedule comprised of a mixture of encore programming and sports specials including PBC Fight Cards, 2020 World Series...u get the gist. That's my suggestion. Cheers! TheRedDomitor (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
CBS Thursday
[edit]Should Young Sheldon[14] & Mom[15] repeats be considered as regular programming in the schedule? I know they didn't air four weeks, only three, but it's the same case as the mentioned above. Giving the particularirty of this year, I think it would be appropiate to, at least, mention these cases. — MrE (talk) 15:44, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Schedule Extension
[edit]So based on many series fall in September and most fall premires happen in October should we put the schedule to October-september? Hoopstercat (talk) 21:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- You mean the leading paragraph? No, even though most summer series conclude in early September, the Fall schedule usually begins on the last weeks of September; it being the transition month between both schedules. — MrE (talk) 23:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
So is it possible to divide the month of September in half then since September has 30 days so from September 1-15th will be the old schedule while September 16-30 will be the new schedule? Hoopstercat (talk) 20:59, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Ok i just now put a slight extension to the schedule but is that far enough or do we go further or closer since i think 9/15 would be a normal summer ending schedule since only dancing with the stars and nfl this last season would be outside those dates Hoopstercat (talk) 23:27, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Categories
[edit]Thought of this in my mind recently should we divide up the Primetime shows by categories like comedys one color and live sports another color dramas another color and so on (you get the point) so that with those colors we can determine what kind of show each one is Hoopstercat (talk) 22:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
adding hours to schedule
[edit]Thought we should talk about this before i do it since last time it wasn't approved (if you remember me adding a 11 p.m. e.t. hour you get the point) but should we add the 7 p.m. e.t. hour on all the other days outside of Sunday? Won't it make since? But currently 7 p.m. e.t. saturdays in that hour are on the daytime schedule (soon adding weekdays) but am i right on that or no? Just thought about talking to this so we don't have to revert more then once like last time Hoopstercat (talk) 22:37, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nope, primetime actually means Sun 7-11pm and Mon-Sat 8-11pm. There is no need to change that. — MrE (talk) 23:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Hoopstercat: A completely futile proposition. The primetime broadcast hours aren't decided by Wikipedia editors but by the Prime Time Access Rule. Even though the PTAR has since been disbanded, this is the way the primetime schedules have been composed for the last 40+ years and will remain so unless there are official amendments made to the then-decided guildeines to include earlier or later slots, through consensus between all five networks.TheRedDomitor (talk) 15:19, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
More networks
[edit]So i know this is for broadcast networks but is doing a cable network schedule for some such as tbs,tnt and trutv in the future or it will be on this schedule soon? And also i think we should add my network tv to the schedule rn Hoopstercat (talk) 20:08, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think so. Cable networks do not offer a full weeky primetime schedule like the ones included in this page. Plus, MyNetworkTV and Ion are also not included because the majority of both network schedules comprise syndicated reruns. — MrE (talk) 20:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Live events
[edit]Since most sporting events/awards air live should we say they are live in the note and also put both Eastern and Pacific times in the note? Hoopstercat (talk) 22:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- I think there is no need as it's specified in the note at the beginning of the schedule that says "All times are U.S. Eastern and Pacific Time (except for some live sports or events)." — MrE (talk) 01:03, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- I concur. TheRedDomitor (talk) 03:08, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Just thought about this America's got talent and Big brother have some if not all episodes air live so shouldn't we just put a note or something on the schedule about it? Hoopstercat (talk) 16:30, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Time slot premieres
[edit]If a show has a time slot premiere but it is outside of the time slot for the first episode in the time slot do we put a note on that or not? Hoopstercat (talk) 19:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- If a show premieres/ends out of its regular timeslot, yes, a note should be added. There are several examples in this schedule. The date in brackets should be the one in which the show will air its first episode in that regular timeslot. — MrE (talk) 19:20, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Repeats on episodes
[edit]If a show airs a repeat before a premiere the following week do we include the repeat as the first date in brackets? Hoopstercat (talk) 22:09, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- No, the date in brackets should be the first date of a new episode unless the timeslot is filled with reruns only. — MrE (talk) 22:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Notes about events
[edit]Hey... After noticing the clutter that the Notes about specials, finales and premieres, national events (Emmys, Oscars) have caused throughout this season, I have come up with a proposal. I think that from the next tv season, notes about events should not be added more than a month/month and a half before the event actually takes place. This way the schedule before less extensive at any given points and thus easier to both edit and navigate as a reader. Because seriously, it seems ridiculous for an event that is going to air in February 2022 (Oscars) to be on the schedule since September or worse since now. Thoughts? TheRedDomitor (talk) 04:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, notes make the article extense and they are not actually that relevant to the schedule. We could include them as hidden text (due to the references being posted very early) and make them visible 4 weeks before the event happens. — MrE (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- @MrE: Yup, that sounds good. Just stating this to put it out there, but technically speaking these notes aren't supposed to be there at all. Any content that makes the schedule resemble a week-to-week television guide is in direct violation of WP:NOTTVGUIDE. So imo, as these notes have been going on for quite a few seasons, we should continue adding them for big sports and reality events but really scale back when it comes to unnecessary stuff like one-off events and series listings.TheRedDomitor (talk) 18:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's exactly what I've been thinking since a long time ago, but as everyone was on board with them I did not say anything. I think that games (like NFL Kickoff/Thanksgiving games and major professional sports leagues' finals) and awards that attract a big ammount of viewers could be listed. I don't know if there are other opinions... — MrE (talk) 01:16, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think there are any...I mean it is policy. But what we decided above should work. Include the big ones and nothing else. Also, no one else has responded to this discussion but I think we should get the other frequent editors of the article to atleast go through this, so that everyone is informed and there is no confusion in the future as to what goes up and what doesn't. TheRedDomitor (talk) 03:23, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's exactly what I've been thinking since a long time ago, but as everyone was on board with them I did not say anything. I think that games (like NFL Kickoff/Thanksgiving games and major professional sports leagues' finals) and awards that attract a big ammount of viewers could be listed. I don't know if there are other opinions... — MrE (talk) 01:16, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- @MrE: Yup, that sounds good. Just stating this to put it out there, but technically speaking these notes aren't supposed to be there at all. Any content that makes the schedule resemble a week-to-week television guide is in direct violation of WP:NOTTVGUIDE. So imo, as these notes have been going on for quite a few seasons, we should continue adding them for big sports and reality events but really scale back when it comes to unnecessary stuff like one-off events and series listings.TheRedDomitor (talk) 18:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
The 1 exception i would include is unless the note goes with something already on the schedule (or close to being on the schedule like by a week or 2) then i would leave the note there Hoopstercat (talk) 22:48, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- These notes started being added a few seasons ago and I would have to say that it isn't relevant to the articles. It's supposed to be a schedule for historical purposes not TV listings of every time a show is pre-empted for an award show. I oppose having the notes. Heartfox (talk) 06:02, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, which is exactly why we are going to stop adding them from the next tv season for every small out of slot episode or series listings and one-off specials. Only major national events (Super Bowl, Oscars etc.) will be included. TheRedDomitor (talk) 17:32, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
This kind of goes with fresh episodes as well if a show goes out of time slot for a premiere i think we should just include it in the show's original time slot and put in brackets a special preview/premiere and/or finale instead of putting it as a note i think putting it in that way will reduce the # of notes on the schedule Hoopstercat (talk) 23:54, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Fresh episodes
[edit]Since this last tv season we have expanded the requirements of encores being on the schedule to 4 weeks/episodes shouldn't we apply it also to fresh episodes so we don't have to use as many rows and Shorten a schedule just a bit or go up to 5 weeks for encores? Hoopstercat (talk) 10:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- Firstly regarding the fresh episodes, extensive explanations including math have gone into deciding the three week mark and it has run smoothly this season. All shows have gotten equal and fair representation on the schedule and so I don't feel the need to delve into it again. The encores on the other hand are a bit more complicated. The more one extends the threshold requirement, the higher the chance there is of Various Programming going on the schedule, which as I have boldly stated time and again is redundant and quite frankly completely useless. These schedules are historically significant when documenting television trends and a part of entertainment history for over five decades. So when something as ambiguous as VP is added to the schedule it creates a void, as VP provides no information whatsoever as to the programming aired for multiple weeks. Extending the requirement to five weeks will only increase the chances of this happening, and while it is still on the schedule in a few places the number has reduced significantly as compared to previous seasons. There are very few cases where the encore listings haven't met the four-week requirement anyway (usually they run for much longer than that, especially in Summer) and the schedule is allowed to be a bit bulky considering it documents 12 months of programming for five networks. Thus, imo, things are fine the way they are and don't require change, atleast as of now. TheRedDomitor (talk) 12:03, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
MrE and I worked together in devising this system last year so their input on the matter would be esteemed as well. TheRedDomitor (talk) 17:49, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
So basically all you guys are trying to say is if possible put programming in blocks and only use various programming only when needed Hoopstercat (talk) 22:45, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Yeah thought about this was because the daytime schedule has been in a similar track with sports programming not being specific enough on it Hoopstercat (talk) 22:46, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Top 30 shows
[edit]Apparently, Variety published a list of the top shows of the season here. I think we should add them like we did in the previous season's page. — MrE (talk) 15:43, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Can we just wait for The Hollywood Reporter in a couple weeks or even another outlet that actually waits until the end of the TV season, which is tonight. Some numbers will change, and the list includes cable but this is for networks. Last year The Hollywood Reporter was used. It is the best source because it actually waits until the end of the season and then provides complete Live+7, not Variety rushing to be first when the TV season isn't even over yet. This could have significant changes for series like This Is Us and The Masked Singer, which aired their finales last night and tonight, but those episodes aren't included by Variety. Heartfox (talk) 16:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, I wasn't sure when the previous list was released in 2020 so I made a bold move. Revert the edits then. — MrE (talk) 16:44, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- I too think that we should wait for THR's complete-comprehensive, purely broadcast TV list. [Deadline] did release a list a few hours ago but that includes only Top 40, not all shows and also includes summer programming such as AGT. I know we only add the top 30 but it is better to cite a source that gives the complete list for further reading. So THR works best imo. TheRedDomitor (talk) 02:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I agree. Hollywood Reporter looks like the best option out of the lot. We should wait until they release their season rankings list. Sunshine1191 (talk) 04:34, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Update from The Hollywood Reporter: "Full seven-day ratings for the 2020-21 season will be available next week." Heartfox (talk) 19:49, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- FYI: THR has posted the full rankings here. Heartfox (talk) 05:31, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Update from The Hollywood Reporter: "Full seven-day ratings for the 2020-21 season will be available next week." Heartfox (talk) 19:49, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- I agree. Hollywood Reporter looks like the best option out of the lot. We should wait until they release their season rankings list. Sunshine1191 (talk) 04:34, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I too think that we should wait for THR's complete-comprehensive, purely broadcast TV list. [Deadline] did release a list a few hours ago but that includes only Top 40, not all shows and also includes summer programming such as AGT. I know we only add the top 30 but it is better to cite a source that gives the complete list for further reading. So THR works best imo. TheRedDomitor (talk) 02:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, I wasn't sure when the previous list was released in 2020 so I made a bold move. Revert the edits then. — MrE (talk) 16:44, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Sports programming
[edit]I thought about this i know the Olympic trials are in a big chunk mostly on weekends and some air in the same time slot at 2-4 weeks for most of them so shouldn't we just put them on the schedule or no do it the way like the Olympics like at the beginning of the schedule? Hoopstercat (talk) 00:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Summer Shows
[edit]When determining which season (Winter, Spring Summer or Fall) the series goes in does all shows have to be in that season or just one? Since i am trying to figure out if fox's sunday programming on late spring or summer since the dates of the shows are set for (6/6 and 6/27) Hoopstercat (talk) 23:31, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
New Source for TV ratings
[edit]Not sure if everyone is aware but ShowBuzzDaily announced on Twitter that the site has been shut down. Now there is little to know source for final numbers. If someone finds a reliable source for final numbers respond to the topic. Brianis19 (talk) 21:19, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know other than Programming Insider, but they provide the final ratings with the DVR ratings after a long period of time. I don't think that TVRG would apply as a reliable source but they seem to update final ratings in time. — MrE (talk) 21:33, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
PGA Tour
[edit]The PGA Tour isn't a regularly scheduled primetime program. It just happens by circumstance that it has overrun the last 3 weeks. It doesn't go on the schedule, and especially doesn't push back 60 Minutes to being a seasonal 8 PM show.
PGA tour shouldn’t be on the schedule at all because the only pga tour events that preempt programming are the masters and pga championship so it shouldn’t move 60 minutes at all Hoopstercat (talk) 13:54, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
And also pga on the daytime schedule ends at 6 pm et nowhere close to primetime there may be a consideration in moving it to 6:30 pm et but I wouldn’t for 7 pm et or later Hoopstercat (talk) 13:55, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Summer repeats
[edit]@Lonniemitchell22: @Sunshine1191: @TheRedDomitor: I'm bringing this discussion again, because I thought we agreed to add repeats to the schedule if they air a minimum of four weeks at least. Several summer/late summer schedules do not seem to follow this rule. First, on Sundays The Equalizer and NCIS:LA only air for 3 non-consecutive weeks, in which the 9/12 repeats correspond to the next schedule, since 60 Minutes premieres on that date. Second, on Thursdays the same happen with the MasterChef and Call Me Kat repeats (they air for 3 non-consecutive weeks); and last on Saturdays with the repeats of America's Got Talent, wich also air for 3 weeks only. Thoughts? — MrE (talk) 23:01, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Well the agt repeat could possibly be into next tv season in the 9/25 tba block and for Sundays 10/3 is a possibility in which those shows could reair and make 4 weeks outside of specials Hoopstercat (talk) 01:37, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- If that happens, it's okay to add it; but in the meantime there is no source that could verify that information per WP:CRYSTALBALL. — MrE (talk) 01:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
And also it is late summer programming so sometimes it’s tricky to find any programming during that time frame so this needs to be at least a consideration since I don’t see any other programming for those blocks for like a while from now which it will be fall by then Hoopstercat (talk) 01:42, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
And we had other programming being on the schedule for 3 weeks straight of reairs so I think it should be 3 straight weeks or 4 of 6 weeks or something along those lines for reairs to be on the schedule Hoopstercat (talk) 01:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Another thing is we had specials that air 2 weeks in 2 hours or 4 episodes so that should be a requirement if possible Hoopstercat (talk) 01:46, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- @MrE: Firstly, I apologise for the delay in replying. As you may have noticed I haven't been actively editing on the schedule for the past 2 months or so due to preoccupation with things in the real world. But the way I see this is; Summer schedules for the Big 4 are wrapping up now and they are just trying to fill the slots for till Sept 20, when Fall officially commences. I'm not in favour of completely omitting the filler programming in the Sunday and Thursday cases u mentioned as 3/4 weeks, even if scheduled unevenly is significant, or using VP (on account of it being completely uninformative). Increasing the significance threshold to 5/6 weeks will only amplify the problem at hand because encore scheduling is highly erratic... especially in the Summer. Considering the season is anyway concluding, I think the most viable solution is to use the program/encore that has aired for majority in that slot. eg: for 3 out of 5 weeks...even if scheduled non-consecutively. This way the schedule won't be affected very much and at the same time won't be incomplete towards the end either. CRYSTALBALLING can also be avoided this way. Atleast that is my opinion. Thoughts? TheRedDomitor (talk) 11:26, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
I agree and that should be applied to all schedules Hoopstercat (talk) 13:52, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
I too agree with the solution out forward by TheRedDomitor. Sunshine1191 (talk) 03:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
@MrE is this final that we are doing the most constant programming to fill in all remaining spots in the schedule at this moment? Hoopstercat (talk) 20:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, if most of the editors agree, add them again. — MrE (talk) 22:42, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Confusion on a couple half hour shows being displayed as an hour
[edit]Out of curiosity, I don't know if it has been previously discussed, but why are some shows that are a half hour long program being displayed as an hour long program? I understand a possible reasoning being that two new episodes are airing back to back, but that still doesn't make the program an hour long, it just means that there are to 30 minute episodes airing back to back. Two examples that I've found on this page so far is for Two Sentence Horror Stories on Sunday for The CW and Kenan on Monday for NBC. To me, if I wasn't familiarized with the programs, would assume that they are an hour long which would be incorrect. It just seems misleading in terms of displaying accurate information about the schedule and the shows. Just curious if there was an actual reason for doing this. 174.102.125.179 (talk) 03:23, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Ignore this, Posted it on the wrong page. My bad.174.102.125.179 (talk) 02:02, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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