Talk:2019 Kosovan parliamentary election

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Some of the parties are running together on a common list, while others are in coalition. What's the difference here between the two, what does it entails?--Aréat (talk) 00:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seat changes

I presume the issues with the seat changes is due to incorrect information on various articles about how many seats various parties held within the two main coalitions in the 2017 elections.

The LA Coalition won 29 seats. However, according to their individual articles, the Democratic League of Kosovo had 25, the New Kosovo Alliance had 4 and The Alternative 2. The LA Coalition article claims that the alliance had 27 seats after the New Kosovo Alliance left, so perhaps they only had 2?

The figures for the PANA Coalition are also inconsistent across articles; it won 39 seats in total, but 23 for the Democratic Party of Kosovo, 12 for the Alliance for the Future of Kosovo and 6 for the Social Democratic Initiative (based on the figure in the infobox after the election).

Does anyone have a reliable source showing the seat split within coalitions? Number 5 7 11:50, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The French 2017 election article has seat splits different to those above, but unfortunately the source is dead (as is the archive!). Is this trusted (the breakdown was added by @Ibra2102:, who is no longer active)? Number 5 7 12:11, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm sorry you had to wait so long for my answer @Number 57:, but as you said, I'm not really an active member. I try to help and add information on article I know the most. I will try to explain the situation as clearly as possible. I'm sad you used "incorrect information" to describe my work.

First of all, we must understand that in Kosovo, first place is really important. It allows a coalition or a group to propose the first name to elect the President of the Assembly. It is also an opportunity to show off by claiming to be the leading party in the country. This caused quite a conflict between VV and PDK over who was the first party. So in order to win, several parties come together. But unlike in other countries, parties don't really get together. They show themselves together, but basically it's just an agreement to reach first place.

Now why LA Coalition claimed 27 and not 25. I explained it in "Conséquences" of French Article, but I will do it in english. In Kosovo, when you participate in an election as a multi-party coalition, you are considered as a single party by the election commission. So if you leave the assembly, you are replaced by the following from the coalition list, not the party list. It is what happened to Behgjet Pacolli (NKA) who was replaced by Imet Rrahmani (DLK). Here you'll find the official decision of his replacement (he became Minister) (point 6, page 3) : http://old.kuvendikosoves.org/common/docs/proc/proc__2017_09_10_12_7019_al.pdf (You can also find his name on previous legislature list here : http://old.kuvendikosoves.org/?cid=1,158&legid=6).

What about the 3 others ? 2 (Islam Pacolli (NKA) and Labinot Tahiri(NKA)) leave the LA group. And 1 (Korab Sejdiu) decided to leave the NKA party, but stay in LA coalition (https://telegrafi.com/korab-sejdiu-jep-doreheqje-nga-akr/ and you can also find the group he belong the previous legislature http://old.kuvendikosoves.org/?cid=1,158,1050&secid=102&legid=6). At the end, you have -1 (B. Pacolli) +1 Rrahmani -2 (I. Pacolli and Tahiri). So 29-1+1-2 = 27

Then, how did I the 2017 count ? I counted one by one every candidate after the election. You can easily find information on every candidate and the party he really belong (and when you follow the politics, it's even easier). But to save you a lot of time, you can find the information here : https://web.archive.org/web/20180227085435/http://www.kuvendikosoves.org/?cid=1,107 This is the composition of the parliament after the changes at the beginning of the legislature and before the various clashes that cause members to change groups. I know, the AFK has 10 members on the link. But here, we have the same "Musical chairs" between the coalition members (page 3, point 1 to 5 http://old.kuvendikosoves.org/common/docs/proc/proc__2017_09_10_12_7019_al.pdf) . You can translate what I wrote here : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lections_l%C3%A9gislatives_kosovares_de_2017#Cons%C3%A9quences. Hope my answer will help you --Ibra2102 (talk) 21:41, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ibra2102: No problem about the delay, and thanks for the detailed response. We went with your figures in the end :) Cheers. Number 5 7 21:50, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vetëvendosje seat change

@AceDouble: When we compare seat changes in cases where parties have split from one alliance and joined another, we use the total number of seats won by each party at the previous elections. So, if one party wins 100 seats, and a coalition of two parties wins 50 (with 25 seats each), if one of those parties then runs in the next election with the 100-seat party, the number of seats they won at the last election (for comparison) is 125. As an example, in the April 2019 Israeli legislative election, Likud won 35 seats, of which one was taken by a member of Ahi. Ahi left Likud following the elections. In the September 2019 Israeli legislative election, Kulanu (which had won four seats in the April election) ran in the Likud list. Therefore Likud's previous total for comparison was 35 –1 + 4 = 38, hence why they are shown as being on –6 after winning 32 seats this time.

In the 2017 elections, Vetëvendosje won 32 seats and Alternativa 2. In these elections, Alternativa ran as part of the Vetëvendosje list, so the combined seats won by the two parties at the last election was 34. Please stop changing it to 32. Thanks, Number 5 7 16:05, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Aréat: You are also welcome to intervene here (and for info, the final results and seat tallies are available). Cheers, Number 5 7 16:07, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notice. I will have to redo the seat diagram, then. And, yes, @AceDouble:, that's how we show the difference of seats from one election to the other in such a situation.--Aréat (talk) 20:04, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Aréat: The final results have been announced after the batch from Serbia were removed from the count. Cheers, Number 5 7 23:06, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Number 57: Thanks for the notice!--Aréat (talk) 23:13, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discrepency in Percentages and turnout

What source are the percentages for the infobox from? Because this source has different numbers. Ayvind-Bjarnason (talk) 03:03, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Update: it seems the numbers came from this [1]. I would say that would be more reliable than the one I provided above, so all is well. Ayvind-Bjarnason (talk) 03:03, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]