Talk:2019 Koreas–United States DMZ Summit/Archive 1

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This wasn't a summit, it was a 15 minute meet & great - no official business happened. President Moon also wasn't part of the Trump-Kim meeting as the intro seems to imply. I'm not sure what to suggest for a more correct title, but "summit" should be removed. I retract my comment. Coinmanj (talk) 22:20, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

@Coinmanj: I'm just going to note that sources disagree on whether this was a real summit, a "summit", or explicitly saying that it was not a summit. To be sure, the majority don't call it a summit. The fact that some explicitly say it wasn't one – there wasn't an agenda etc. – makes me think it might not be the appropritae title. We might have a mess on our hands in the near future when sources start to discuss the next summit, variously calling it either the third or fourth. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 10:07, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Regarding some of the definition about the summit below;

1) international meeting of heads of state

2) prearranged meeting

3) tight security,

4) considerable media exposure,

5) a prearranged agenda

I think that it might be called a summit if it covers 4 out of 5 items.

For example, if the meeting of heads of state was not publicly announced, it might be just a meeting. 202.21.15.116 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Photo

Could we find a photo of Trump's crossing over into North Korea and add it to the article? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 15:39, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I agree that it would be beneficial for public to have at least one photo Goodtiming8871 (talk) 00:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

The exact time of Ivanka's visit DPRK?

Hello, I was unable to understand that the relevance of the article and the reference below; As the article stated Ivanka visited DPRK before the summit meeting. However the reference stated that Ivanka Trump visited DPRK during the US-DPRK summit not before the summit. Please provide me with the exact reference regarding timing of Ivanka Trump's visiting to DPRK.

• Article: "It was also revealed that Trump's daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared Kushner had visited North Korea to meet with Kim beforehand and acted as lead American diplomats during the summit."
• Ref:

Regarding the Ref below: Ivanka Trump attended the US-DPRK summit but, it's still during the summit not before the summit.

• Ivanka Trump meeting with Kim Jong-Un revealed in North Korea footage, ( Video shows that it's the DMZ summit meeting room)

• Update: Now, I understand the most of the situation. ( solved the puzzle by matching the article and video below)

1) She met Kim on Saturday (29/June) 2) She talked to Bloomberg’s Jennifer Jacobs that she was invited to DPRK on that day. 3) The Video below explained that United States Secretary of the Treasury: Steven Mnuchin had visited North Korea to meet with Kim on 29/June on Saturday.

• News Article:
• Video:

Let me update the article as the current version is vague in meaning and the location of the reference is incorrect.

• Please refer to the full version video of below

The confirmed additional attendees of DMZ summit - please check the name of the person on video

• Time of naming and name of person:

• 9 minute 28 second - Ivanka Trump
• 9 minute 29 second - Steven Mnuchin
• 9 minute 32 second - Harry B. Harris Jr.

Full version:

Goodtiming8871 (talk) 08:44, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Do we know where Ivanka went in NK?--Jack Upland (talk) 08:06, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

From my understanding about the articles and full version of video, there is no exact location in DPRK. I can assume that it was just the building(example Phanmun Pavilion) of DPRK side in DMZ for the preparations of the next day DMZ summit(30/June).

• Regarding the heading of the current version of ariticle below;
• It is also misleading article to the readers of this encyclopedia as the official DPRK video shows that and it's atually meeting place of Trump-Kim summit with other officials.

• "with Ivanka holding a later televised meeting with Kim" <-- I would fix the delusive heading on this article. For details: Please check the full -version video above from DPRK. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 23:50, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Goodtiming8871

Goodtiming8871, can you please make sure your additions and changes are actually supported by the cited sources? I've seen a number of edits that include additions that are not directly supported by the source material. I've flagged places in edit summaries when I noticed this. WP:V provides guidance on this, including "Use sources that directly support the material presented in an article and are appropriate to the claims made." Thanks and regards, --Neutrality^talk 19:59, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Neutrality, Thank you for your request and Please refer to my response below.

1. S. Korea President Moon announced that Trump-Kim DMZ summit gives hope of peace to 80 million Korean people. ---> Please see the reference below.
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• Time of the news: 4:11 a.m. ET, June 30, 2019
• Moon: Trump-Kim meeting gives "hope to 80 million Korean people"
• South Korean President Moon Jae-in said the meeting between US President Donald Trump and North Korean leader gives “hope to 80 million Korean people."

If the previous article is supported by the reference, would it be acceptable for me to recover it? or could you please kindly recover it?

2. As you described the words "FFVD or CVID", without (FFVD or CVID), the previous version would be supported by the source below.

• Concerning the current version word: "photo op"; it is a repeated criticism on United States section and it's a REDUNDANT words. as it's also criticism by the candidate Elizabeth Warren on the current United States section. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 09:52, 6 July 2019 (UTC)