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Reviewer: L235 (talk · contribs) 19:55, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Looking forward to picking this up in the next few days. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:55, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi L235, did you have any comments for me? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, very sorry about the delay, this is high on the list! Apologies, unexpected wikiwork has come up recently but this is a priority. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:32, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No pressure on this L235, but did you have anything for me? Uni work is much more important, so don't worry if it's a drama. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:38, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for nominating this article to be a good article. Apologies for the lengthy delay. I have gone through the article and its sources a few times, and will be posting my notes soon. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 08:39, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blockers

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These are questions that I would like to be answered before promoting the article:

  • "The World Snooker Tour in the 2019–20 season consisted of a field of 128 professional players." -- Why the source discrepancy between the two sources? Is it that the first one is comparatively outdated?
  • In the calendar, Shoot Out - what is the source for this being 1-0?
  • "Austria, the first time in any snooker season" - source? Is this repeated in the body somewhere? I didn't spot it at a glance.
  • Is it generally accepted practice to rank players by number of wins, and then by number of runner-ups? If so, is this documented somewhere?
  • How did you choose what counts as "major invitational events"? Is there a generally accepted list somewhere? (potential NOR/SYNTH?)
    • It's just a list of the ones that the World Snooker Tour either run, or are associated with. This is a copy of the calendar that they provide. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:58, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm still vaguely uncomfortable with this, as there are events on the cited calendar (such as the Q School) that aren't listed, which could be a NOR issue as I'm not sure how the inclusion criteria was decided. But it's not a big enough NOR problem to hold the article back, as the information that is present in the article is verifiable. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 05:34, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions

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These suggestions are not blockers to promotion:

  • I strongly suggest using the {{abbr}} template on the World ranking points table especially, and also the Calendar. (this caused me quite some confusion when first reading)
  • "The 2019–20 snooker season was a series of professional snooker tournaments played between 9 May 2019 and 22 August 2020." - worth commenting on how this was longer than normal?
  • "tour card" - consider defining this, perhaps parenthetically, first
  • Why list just the two-season tour card players and not all the players?
  • calendar table - link the redlinked Challenge Tour events to 2019–20 Challenge Tour, perhaps?
  • "Judd Trump won six tournaments, the most in a single season" -- consider "the most of any individual player in a single season"
  • consider moving footnote 44 to the end of the paragraph, because right now it's not clear that 45 is verifying the entire paragraph
  • Suggest c/e on note 1 to "First round losers in the Shoot Out, Coral World Grand Prix, Coral Players Championship and Coral Tour Championship will receive their prize money in full; however, this money will not count towards the prize money rankings."
  • Suggest c/e on note to to add a period at the end.
  • If you have time, I'd prettify the references a bit -- "Archived copy" as the page title is a bit uneasy, for example.
  • I spotted a non-MOS:DASH-compliant "4-0"; haven't had a chance to search for other occurrences but good to look out for. Added KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 05:26, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

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Other miscellaneous notes:

  • Great job with this article! I can tell it was a lot of work to compile.
  • There's quite some OR in this article, and it's right on the edge of what I view as acceptable for a GA. The tables are almost entirely all compiled by hand, for instance, and it can be easy to hit SYNTH when doing so (e.g. how do you decide what is a significant enough invitational to go in the table?). This is probably typical for sports articles, but it's on the upper bound of what I would feel comfortable promoting.
  • I haven't yet gone through the "Season summary" section carefully yet, but I see that most of the concerns from there were resolved in GA1. But I'll be sure to do so before final passage.
  • I wish we didn't have to rely so heavily on primary sources (worldsnooker.com itself) so often, but I understand the need to in sports-related articles. Added KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 05:37, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on your hard work here and for nominating this GAN. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 09:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
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I am passing this GA. Congratulations on your successful nomination! I would still encourage looking at the other suggestions; though not blockers to GA status, they may be helpful in improving the article. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 05:37, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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