Talk:2018 Women's World Twenty20 final

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April 25, 2019	Good article nominee	Listed

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Matt294069 (talk · contribs) 01:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
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a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Comments

So I will be looking through this article to see if this worthy of an Good article. Not Homura (talk) 01:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

The 2018 ICC Women's World Twenty20 final was a Women's Twenty20 International cricket match... - capital for the Final and as we already know that its a T20 International, that bit can be removed.
- Capitalised "Final", but left the link to Women's Twenty20 International, as that is an official classification. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
World Twenty20 – Australia have won on each occasion. - Change each to both and have to has, and maybe add the years that they played in the final.
- Changed each to both: left it as "have" for the moment, this might be a MOS:ENGVAR issue, and I want to check into it. Added the years. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In their chase, Alyssa Healy scored quickly early on, but Australia lost two wickets to fall to 44 for two. Lanning and Gardner then took over and a score of 33 not out from the latter helped Australia to victory by eight wickets. - These sentences need to be worked on as it doesn't flow.
- I've tried rewriting this, how is it? Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Route to the final

Group stage

Australia path

Against Ireland in their second match, - Move the Against Ireland to end of that little section so it says, In their second match against Ireland,
- Done. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In reply, Healy scored the fastest half-century in Women's World Twenty20 history, and the second-fastest in all women's Twenty20 Internationals, taking 21 balls to reach her fifty. - Needs a reference here
- This is already provided in ref #3, "Healy's 21-ball half-century blows Ireland away". Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Australia chased down their target with more than half of the innings remaining, to win by nine wickets. - Change "the innings" to "their overs".
- Done. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Australia's opening batters proved strong again in their third match of the tournament; the pair put on 71 runs together before Mooney was dismissed - Maybe change it to "After an opening partnership of 71 in the third match of the group against New Zealand..." or something similar along those lines.
- Changed as suggested. Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Alex Malcolm described that New Zealand had managed to "expose some vulnerabilities in the powerful Australian line-up" - Needs a reference here and also who is Alex Malcolm
- Sorted. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Indians batted first, and scores of 83 from Smriti Mandhana and 43 from Harmanpreet Kaur propelled them to a score of 167 for eight. - Change to this to "The Indians batted first and scored 167 for eight with Smriti Mandahana scoring 83." or something similar to remove the two ands in this sentence.
- Reworked slightly differently. Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Late in the India innings, Healy and Schutt collided, resulting in a mild concussion for Healy which meant that she was not able to bat during Australia's innings. - Reference
- Referenced already in ref #5, "Mandhana, spinners demolish Australia as India top Group B" Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
but against a spin-bowling dominated bowling attack, - remove the first bowling to make it "but against a spin dominated bowling attack,
- Done. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ellyse Perry top-scored for Australia with 39 runs, - Remove for Australia
- Done. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
...but economical bowling from Anuja Patil and Radha Yadav in particular saw Australia bowled out for 119, their first loss of the competition. - Remove the "in particular" in this sentence.
- Done. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

England path

England were placed in Group A, alongside Bangladesh, South Africa, Sri Lanka and West Indies. - Reference needed
- Added reference. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
lost both their openers - Remove their
- Removed. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Missing something about their revised total in the match against Bangladesh
- Added. Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
while Anya Shrubsole also took three wickets, conceding 11 runs - Seems to me that their is no mention of the hat-trick in that game.
- Good point, added. Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The final match of the group stage, against the West Indies, determined which team would finish top of the group, and face Australia. - Possible reference here?
- Added a reference. Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
England batted first, but lost - Remove the comma
- Removed. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
described as "a meagre total" by ESPNcricinfo's Alan Gardner. - Reference needed
- Added reference. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
with three balls of the innings remaining - Remove "of the innings".
- Removed. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi final

Australia faced the West Indies in the first of the semi-finals, which were played as a double-header. - Maybe a reference stating that it was a double header
- Added a reference. Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
scored 46 runs quicker than a-run-a-ball, - change it "at more than" and also lose the comma here.
- Done. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Build up

favourites coming into the tournament; ESPNcricinfo, Sky Sports, Fox Sports, and The Guardian all rated them as such - You properly don't need that entire list of such websites to state that claim. Just some references only for those links.
- Trimmed. Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Match

Summary

spin bowling of Sophie Molineux, - "spin bowler, Sophie Molineux" instead of what was said here
- Done. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
following over following a direct hit by Georgia Wareham - change following to by and change the by to the from so its says "following over by a direct hit from Georgia Wareham at midwicket"
- Done, thanks, that was a jumble! Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
in the second over, bowled by Shrubsole, Healy hit three boundaries. She continued to score quickly, but was bowled by Ecclestone in the fifth over for 22. - This whole area can be replaced by just doing "with Healy hitting four boundaries in the opening overs before being bowled by Ecclestone in the fifth over for 22." or something along those lines

Scorecard

No problems with that

Aftermath

ICC Women's Twenty20 International Player of the Year needs to be linked to ICC Women's Cricketer of the Year.
- Linked. Harrias ^talk 10:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Final comments

@Harrias: Personally I feel like their is a little too much going on during the English side of the innings as their is eight lines of text in the English innings compared to only three in the Australian innings so maybe try and shrink the summary for the English innings or expand the Australian innings in the summary. Another thing I noticed throughout reading this was the use of the cricinfo a lot throughout the Route to the final paths, maybe try and expand on finding some sources from outside of that website. Other than that, just need to fix those things and it would be good to go as a GA. Not Homura (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Matt294069: I understand your comment about the imbalance of the innings, but the more I read through it, and the sources, the more it becomes apparent to me that it simply reflects the balance of the match. The England innings went on for longer, had more wickets, and more other chances. In contrast, the Australians more or less breezed to victory, only losing two, rather than ten, wickets. I could probably cut a little from the first innings, and pad a little in the second, but I personally think that either would be detrimental to the article? Harrias ^talk 13:19, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: Looking at that section in particular, I see where you are coming from as Australia did breeze towards the win and maybe cutting a bit from the English side of the page might be partially detrimental for the article. It could be possible that the Australian part might need a little more padding but the problem would be in what would way to expand that section. Matt294069 (talk) 23:32, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: Any update on doing those modifications as it has been seven days since I have reviewed the article and just wanting to know what is going on. Thanks. Matt294069 (talk) 08:05, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, completely missed this. We're away on holiday until the 12th, but I'll see what I can do. Harrias ^talk 19:44, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That is fine, sometimes an holiday is good to clear the brain from any negative thoughts. Matt294069 (talk) 04:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just one comment from me: Handy to link to the first use of some of the cricket terminology (if there's an article for it), as it might be obvious to those who follow the sport to what they are, it won't be for others. I've done this in the lead for a couple of words (toss, over, etc). I did this on the article I worked on last year to get to a GA. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah thanks for that, I will think about that for future GA reviews that is similar to this. Matt294069 (talk) 01:46, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Matt294069: I've been through your comments and addressed each; let me know any further input you might have. Harrias ^talk 10:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me, here is your GA. Matt294069 (talk) 00:35, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.