Talk:2018 IIHF World Championship
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Sweden
[edit]Why is it that Denmark and Sweden needed to be in different groups? MrArticleOne (talk) 03:08, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- To sell tickets. You can buy a 'Sweden' package, or a 'Denmark' package.18abruce (talk) 08:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'm dense but it's just not adding up in my mind. When the tournament was being co-hosted this year, I understood why France and Germany couldn't be in the same group, since the organizers wanted each host country's national team to play in each host country's pool, which implies mutually exclusive pools. But here there's only one host. Maybe the thing is that I don't know what these respective packages get you. MrArticleOne (talk) 23:21, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- Its not that they can't be in the same group, the rules allow for the host to make changes as long as the other nations agree (IIHF Sport Regulations, page 4 I think). 2012 or 2013 had Russia switch to Finland's group for basically the same reason.18abruce (talk) 23:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- I think the confusion is from a lack of deeper explanation. It isn't clear why this was needed for Sweden to have it's own package and not some other country. If it is geography or cultural similarity then Norway would be the one getting their own package. It just seems somewhat arbitrary and not clearly explained why this is the case. Rs180216 (talk) 00:53, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- The simple answer is geography; you can drive from Malmo to Copenhagen in less than an hour (Norway is a 2+ hour ferry). Other than that, it is absolutely an arbitrary decision by the organizing committee; because they can, and they think they can capitalize on the Swedish hockey market. So far it looks like the marketing strategy has worked. Finland opted to have Russia moved into their group in a co-hosted tournament in 2013 to sell tickets, USA moved Canada into their group in the 2018 juniors to sell tickets for the outdoor game. They don't have to have a good reason.18abruce (talk) 20:59, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- I think the confusion is from a lack of deeper explanation. It isn't clear why this was needed for Sweden to have it's own package and not some other country. If it is geography or cultural similarity then Norway would be the one getting their own package. It just seems somewhat arbitrary and not clearly explained why this is the case. Rs180216 (talk) 00:53, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Its not that they can't be in the same group, the rules allow for the host to make changes as long as the other nations agree (IIHF Sport Regulations, page 4 I think). 2012 or 2013 had Russia switch to Finland's group for basically the same reason.18abruce (talk) 23:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'm dense but it's just not adding up in my mind. When the tournament was being co-hosted this year, I understood why France and Germany couldn't be in the same group, since the organizers wanted each host country's national team to play in each host country's pool, which implies mutually exclusive pools. But here there's only one host. Maybe the thing is that I don't know what these respective packages get you. MrArticleOne (talk) 23:21, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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relegation
[edit]In the past there has been some debate over whether it is possible for two teams to be relegated from one group. This year's IIHF page has modified the wording slightly to make it explicit here, "If Slovakia were last in its group and thus among the overall bottom ranked two teams, the overall ranked 14th-placed team would be relegated instead." So clearly it is hypothetically possible for two Group B teams to be relegated, I just don't know if it is really worth mentioning on the table. Seems to me extra information for a rather obscure possibility, that is only really important for editors to know.18abruce (talk) 18:55, 3 May 2018 (UTC)