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Page for killings other than beheadings

Our unfortunate title of ISIL beheading incidents that stays despite very relevant requests to change leaves out other executions by ISIS. Very clear examples of this is the burning of Jordanian pilot Muath al-Kasasbeh. ISIL is coming with increasingly more gruesome execution tactics. There were reports that some had been crucified. There are reports of mass killings of captured opponents from Syrian Army or Al Nusra Front or the Syrian Free Army opponents. These can aptly be described as mass killings, even massacres. Do we have a listing of such incidents? You can add to it what came out today in the news about execution of 19-year old Israeli-Palestinian Arab Muhammad Musallam, accused of spying for Israel and then shot by a very young underage ISIL vigilante with a pistol or a gun shooting the young Musallem ion his forehead execution style and later emtying three more bullets to his body. Parents of Musallem deny him being a spy and that these were trumped up charges against him. See the story of Muhammad Musallam here http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-video-claims-killing-israeli-spy-musallam-195755017.html If it's not a beheading, is it less gruesome to be included in our listing? And if we do list such incidents, just exactly where? werldwayd (talk) 03:43, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There seem to be some articles based around the mode of killing - List of Syrian Civil War barrel bomb attacks is a mass killing list centered on the barrel bomb mode. The list came out of the article barrel bomb. These mode-type lists try to be comprehensive. Rather than creating lots of comprehensive mode-based lists, one could create List of significant ISIL killings using the format of the barrel bomb list, with a chronology of events, 1 line per day, mode independent. -- GreenC 04:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The need for a comprehensive listing by date (or date announced if actual date cannot be determined) is essential. I don't know if we should call it List of significant ISIL killings though. I am bothered by the word "significant" as part of title. but that's a detail that can be dealt later. The previous renaming request was ideal to deal with this issue of other killings, but result was to keep "beheadings" article, while disregarding many other killings by ISIL. I don't know if there were hangings as well, or crucifictions, as some media asserted. Executions by firing squad is yet another method that ISIL has used. werldwayd (talk) 07:28, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Significant" just means there is enough notable coverage for inclusion in Wikipedia, without claiming to be comprehensive which is impossible in a war of this scale. I don't think the result was to "disregarding many other killings by ISIL", rather to keep this article about one particular mode of killing. Which makes sense as this article is more than merely a list of deaths. -- GreenC 13:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with User:Werldwayd the ISIS have changed many times its execution procedures, from beheading captives to burning them alive, now its reported that they put people on a cage and sumerge it to drown their ocupants, and even blow a car with prisoners with a rocket. This is becoming a evil practice a very sadistic one and should be documented for enciclopedical reasons.Mr.User200 (talk) 15:44, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the original post. The point of concern is that ISIS is killing all of these victims (regardless of the methods they employ). The beheading method is no more notable than the other methods (shooting, burning, drowning, etc.). Why does "beheading" have its own page, while the others do not? I'd rather see a comprehensive list of their murder victims, all in one page. As opposed to have just the beheading victims discussed. This makes no sense. What's the rationale? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:54, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese government releases

http://www.mofa.go.jp/me_a/me2/page16e_000004.html - http://www.webcitation.org/6he23RMHl
- http://www.mofa.go.jp/files/000065768.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6he22YYNV

These were related to the murders of Kenji Goto and Haruna Yukawa WhisperToMe (talk) 11:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Abu Sayyaf

Do the ISIS affiliated Abu Sayyaf of Robert Hall (Canadian), John Ridsdel and others get added to this article?E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:44, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Beheading of 4-year-old girl

Hello all,

It seems like the source for the beheading of the 4-year-old is the only site which mentions this incident. I think it could use some verification. Also, is it necessary to say that the mother was forced to soak hands in the daughter's blood? That seems unnecessary.

Pentaquark (talk) 05:38, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever was writing it, stopped around 8 years ago

The list and other content obviously needs a MAJOR update ever since. 94.254.152.192 (talk) 10:13, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]